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Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« on: May 01, 2014, 06:54:05 PM »
Ahh- Ok I want to just put this out there..up front... this is too stupid to post. His ignorance is encyclopedic !!
That said and following the - "never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people" - rule, I feel obliged to bring this to everyone's attention.

This 'large' guy should apologize to the rest of the human race for using up space where smarter plants could flourish.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html

Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
By Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist

Guns will continue to be a problem until we remove their Constitutional shield.

I don’t believe the Second Amendment was ever intended to support the kind of gun craziness we contend with today, but since it’s always used to ward off any common-sense gun reforms, maybe we ought to just fix the Constitution and be done with it.

Yes, I know the odds against that are immense, but maybe we could start by nibbling away at the idea that the Constitution is infallible or that the founders had the answers to everything. They were smart men but neither perfect nor prescient.

One of the ways they showed how smart they were, was that they made a document that could be updated when it needed to be, and today it needs to be on this issue.

We’ve had another of those disturbing clusters of shootings in Seattle the past week, and gun violence continues to injure and kill across the country in public, and frequently private, ways. Most gun deaths are suicides.

But some Americans embrace their guns even more tightly even as the headlines call out for sanity. You know what I’m talking about.

Last week. Georgia’s governor signed into law a “guns everywhere bill” allowing residents of the state to carry guns anywhere in public, schools, churches, bars. You just never know when you’ll need to shoot someone.

We are already plagued by stand-your-ground laws and now this.

The law was deemed necessary partly because some cities and towns ban guns in most public places, which might seem reasonable if you want to cut down on gun violence, but Georgia’s leaders believed the answer was more people with more guns. I don’t even think it’s politics anymore. It’s a religion all its own.

Did you see the story earlier this week about a gun seller being threatened by gun lovers for trying to market a safer handgun? Belinda Padilla is CEO of the U.S. division of German firearms maker Armatix. Her company is marketing a biometric handgun that won’t fire unless it is held by its owner, who has to be wearing a wristwatch that communicates with the gun.

The company wants to sell guns, not ban them, but gun lovers worry elected officials would say, gosh, maybe if every gun was safe like this, there’d be fewer criminals shooting people with stolen guns. Thinking like that might lead to laws making it illegal to sell any other kind of gun, thereby depriving Americans of their accustomed freedom to more easily thwart law enforcement.

I don’t know why gun-rights folks are so worried about certain guns being outlawed, because as things stand it’s easy enough to find the firearm you want. Seattle Times reporter Mike Carter wrote last week about a gun shop in Skagit County that might have been the worst in the United States when it comes to tracking gun sales. It was flagged for that in 2005, but the federal government took eight more years to take away the shop’s license.

Inspectors from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives discovered that 2,396 guns Kesselring Gun Shop had in stock at one point, were lost, stolen or otherwise unaccounted for. The business also sold guns to people who couldn’t pass a background check and didn’t alert officials about missing guns.

Why did it take so long to act? Well, there is this from the story: “The agency is tasked with regulating the gun industry, but members of Congress — under relentless pressure from the powerful gun lobby — have made it almost impossible for the ATF to do so, cutting funding and imposing regulatory restrictions.”

Regulation seems reasonable, but it can’t fight against the gun-lobby tide and win. We need to address gun violence at the root by taking away the appearance of mythic sanction the Second Amendment gives.

The founders struggled to get things right, but they knew what we’ve forgotten, that perfection wasn’t possible. They ditched our first Constitution, the Articles of Confederation and started over, then they ensured that the new document would be open to change in the form of amendments.

We ought to respect and honor the document, but realize it is not the last word, that democracy is a living, growing thing that the living must tend. And we must be on guard against people who abuse our reverence for the Constitution for their own political reasons.

We should repeal the Second Amendment.
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2014, 06:56:35 PM »
Im quickly losing faith in humanity!
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2014, 07:21:32 PM »
had to look that one up.
You must first be honest with yourself,Until then your just lying to everyone.

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 07:30:35 PM »
That one is a special kind of stupid.  May he look no further than Leland Yee.

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2014, 07:42:23 PM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 12:01:37 AM »
I enjoyed reading the comments on that article

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 05:11:21 AM »
Seems as though this freedom hating pinko isn't 100% out of touch with reality at least as far as the legal aspects are concerned. Since Heller and again with the Chicago case, SCOTUS has ruled that the 2nd Amendment means what it says. Imagine that.

I honestly HOPE they initiate a Constitutional convention about a repeal. Honestly guys, do you think it would have a snowballs chance in hell? 3/4th of the state legislatures woudl have to ratify  it after the U.S. Congress passes it. And that doesnt' mean adding up all the legislators in the nation and counting off 3/4 of them, it means that 3/4 of the 50 states (57 if you're Barry Seotero) would have to approve it. Ain't happening... at all.  In the meanwhile, it might spark a counter debate about getting these states that hate the Constitution so much to leave and form their own new Confederacy. They can have the high taxes, Obamacare, electric cars, child molesters, illegal aliens, and wolves. We'll keep the jobs, oil drilling, hunting, and hockey moms. Win win!

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 05:58:33 AM »
WOW They walk among us.  :o
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2014, 06:42:04 AM »
PLEASE LORD, let me have a sit down at the local pub with this fella....... would sure like to talk with him, i would love to show him a few remote huntn spots that i know of :tup: people like this bother me, especially with the youth and younger more impressionable adults, college kids and what not, if they latch on to an idea like the one this clown is pushing its all over :twocents: :bash: :bash: its to bad that they dont show 9-11 once a week, or pearl harbor, or make them read about WWII or I  or the revolution or the civil war.... i know i say this alot, but damn it alot of good men died for the freedoms people have today, is this the way we repay their sacrifices :dunno:
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2014, 06:42:13 AM »
Ahh- Ok I want to just put this out there..up front... this is too stupid to post. His ignorance is encyclopedic !!
That said and following the - "never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people" - rule, I feel obliged to bring this to everyone's attention.

This 'large' guy should apologize to the rest of the human race for using up space where smarter plants could flourish.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023499198_jdlcolumn01xml.html

Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
By Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist

We are already plagued by stand-your-ground laws and now this.



How obsurd that we have the right to not be killed by someone :bash:
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2014, 06:53:30 AM »
And every time we click on the link, add a post, share, or do anything else on that article, he becomes more valuable to the Times. News is no longer about the truth and hasn't been for some time. But with the death of newsprint comes news by popularity. We'll hear about the Clippers's owner and his private conversation but anything new on Benghazi won't be posted because the American people don't want to read it.
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2014, 07:04:19 AM »
Quote
WOW They walk among us.

Pretty sure you mean crawl...   :tup:

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2014, 07:56:48 AM »
Its people like this that think they can back gun owners into a corner and make them lay down their guns.....we are going to be forced to make a decision as this gets worse, one that will pit americans against americans.  I don't see it ending any other way.    :twocents:

Ive said it before......people just need to leave others alone....you push people, people push back...................

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2014, 08:31:52 AM »
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2014, 09:19:55 AM »
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading

hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2014, 09:24:16 AM »
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading

hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2014, 09:43:47 AM »
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading

hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...
:yeah:  If the Chit ever hits the fan, you know whose doors that guy would be knocking on!!!  Begging those of us who support our right to bear arms to protect him. What a donkey.
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2014, 09:58:39 AM »
People fail to realize that a armed USA helps with a foreign power from invading

hence the continual pressure from the UN to dissarm us!!
exactly, its sad that people dont see that, if Americans were disarmed it wouldn't take long before a big fish took a huge chunk out of us. The free person with freedom to lose will fight...
:yeah:  If the Chit ever hits the fan, you know whose doors that guy would be knocking on!!!  Begging those of us who support our right to bear arms to protect him. What a donkey.
:yeah:
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2014, 10:26:46 AM »
I wonder what this ignorant person has positively contributed to society which entitles him to such a haughty position regarding our constitution?

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2014, 10:59:45 AM »
 Oxymoron when those with none spout off about common sense constantly
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2014, 08:33:38 PM »
Another jackwagon from downtown who thinks writing or changing law will do anything to "get guns off the street"!  How many times have you told someone, laws only apply to law abiding people. Maybe all the guns in America will magically disappear if the 2nd amendment disappears.

Like Buckfvr said, why can't some people leave others alone. Eventually, enough pushing ends in a fight, and that's not good for anyone. :bdid:


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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 04:32:36 PM »
Would be funny to scare him bad enough that he wished he had a gun....Open his eyes a little
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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 07:16:55 PM »
 Osama's home city of Chicago has banned guns so it should be safe! In the last 2 weeks there have been 66 shootings and 9 homicides from these shootings if I'm adding up my info (if the news is correct) right. Yep, gun control works to keep us honest citizens at the mercy of the lawless and the government who want to exploit us.

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 07:30:16 PM »
Osama's home city of Chicago has banned guns so it should be safe! In the last 2 weeks there have been 66 shootings and 9 homicides from these shootings if I'm adding up my info (if the news is correct) right. Yep, gun control works to keep us honest citizens at the mercy of the lawless and the government who want to exploit us.

 Yeah, Mexico has pretty strict gun control too, how's it working out for them? Might be alittle tougher for a cartel to take over an armed town.

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2014, 07:36:41 PM »
And every time we click on the link, add a post, share, or do anything else on that article, he becomes more valuable to the Times. News is no longer about the truth and hasn't been for some time. But with the death of newsprint comes news by popularity. We'll hear about the Clippers's owner and his private conversation but anything new on Benghazi won't be posted because the American people don't want to read it.

outstanding, I hadn't put words to this trend but there it is.

great point Pman

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2014, 07:40:04 PM »
..............people like that should be buried up to their necks in the sand  :tup:
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2014, 11:57:10 AM »
I wrote this back when Large first held forth:

‘Repeal Second Amendment,’ says Seattle Times columnist
 
Seattle Times columnist Jerry Large has taken what gun rights activists call “the easy route” by lamenting today that the answer to violent urban crime – resulting in three fatal Jet City shootings in recent days – is to repeal the Second Amendment.
 
http://www.examiner.com/article/repeal-second-amendment-says-seattle-times-columnist

As you can see, it got quite a reaction from my readers.

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2014, 12:08:23 PM »
Some people are alive simply because it's against the law to neutralize them. :dunno:

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Re: Common sense calls for repeal of Second Amendment
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2014, 12:10:34 PM »
Thanks for letting me see part of his BS without me having to reward them by going to the actual lies and giving them an additional view
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