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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2014, 07:08:03 AM »
Arrow wound had it happen to me right through the back strap.  Bullet shock more likely would break the spine there.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2014, 07:20:15 AM »
Arrow wound had it happen to me right through the back strap.  Bullet shock more likely would break the spine there.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2014, 07:21:19 AM »
I would agree arrow, but with both scars so similar, entry and exit can't be determined.  With the line it apparently took, I'd say a bullet would have done more than glance off the spine. Still, pretty good size scars for a broadhead, but after all, she does have her summer coat on showing more detail. :twocents:

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2014, 10:26:37 PM »
I would also say arrow , shot down hill or from a tree stand. With an entrance hole that high on the back it would miss the spine . Looks like it healed well.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2014, 12:23:11 AM »
I would say arrow.  But the shot was uphill only way it makes sense to not hit her back!
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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2014, 02:35:12 AM »
The triangular shape of the entrance and long vertical wound on exit looks like a down hill arrow shot to me.  Going over the top of the spine.  Quite common to shoot high when shooting down hill with any weapon but especially so with a bow.  Luckily big game animals recover quite well to that type of mistake with a sharp broadhead. 

Sounds like some folks need a refresher elk anatomy lesson!  Also, she was probably much fatter during archery season which might give you a little more evidence the shot was higher than most seem to think.

I have never seen scars that open and large though.  Could be something completely different and unrelated to a weapon.   :dunno:
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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2014, 03:47:13 AM »
I shot a buck with my bow in the same spot a few years back. He was healthy as could be a few weeks later. I say archery from the uphill side.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2014, 05:45:59 AM »
The triangular shape of the entrance and long vertical wound on exit looks like a down hill arrow shot to me.  Going over the top of the spine.  Quite common to shoot high when shooting down hill with any weapon but especially so with a bow.  Luckily big game animals recover quite well to that type of mistake with a sharp broadhead. 

Sounds like some folks need a refresher elk anatomy lesson!  Also, she was probably much fatter during archery season which might give you a little more evidence the shot was higher than most seem to think.

I have never seen scars that open and large though.  Could be something completely different and unrelated to a weapon.   :dunno:

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 10:27:03 AM »
I have a Doe that Frequents my yard ,  She had a Fawn and now the Fawn is missing but the doe has a newer scar that is pretty dang close to what this cow has.

Makes me believe is was some kinda Predator .

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2014, 11:43:14 AM »
Maybe she said no to a big bull and he horned her a little to hard   :chuckle:
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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2014, 01:48:53 PM »
I'm going with arrow on this one.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
No possible way that a bullet did that.  Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.

The hydrostatic shock would put her down.  Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.

Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2014, 02:37:15 PM »
I made that shot on a little whitetail buck from a stand near a property line.  There was a loud crack, he spun 180 and was down motionless.  As I was climbing down, I saw him thrash his head, then get up on his front legs and start dragging his back half running on his fronts.  I tried to get an arrow nocked and get a shot but the brush was thick and he made it back onto the property where no hunting was allowed.  Four hours later, at midnight, I picked up the blood trail with a flashlight, and after 1/2 hour slow tracking I busted him from his bed - he ran off normal as can be.  Two small dried blood pools (quarter size) on either side. 
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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2014, 05:35:00 PM »
No possible way that a bullet did that.  Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.

The hydrostatic shock would put her down.  Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.

Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.



There is actually quite a bit of room for error in that area regardless of what you are shooting.

I shot a yearly elk with my muzzle loader and 250 gr bullet in the same spot. The elk went down, until I walked up to it. Then it took off. Luckily I realized I hit high, reloaded and snuck in at the ready and was able to put one through the boilermaker on the run.

One year we found a broad head lodged in the vertebrae of a rifle killed bull.
And another time we found a healed up bullet hole in  an archery killed bull. The bullet shattered/removed the arch off of the vertebrae.





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Re: Cow with scar any Idea what caused it?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2014, 09:56:49 AM »
No possible way that a bullet did that.  Not from a legal hunting rifle anyway.

The hydrostatic shock would put her down.  Even the blast from a .30/30 would put the spinal cord into useless fits.

Amazing how an arrow can be incredibly lethal but can also miss, so perfectly, anything vital.



There is actually quite a bit of room for error in that area regardless of what you are shooting.

I shot a yearly elk with my muzzle loader and 250 gr bullet in the same spot. The elk went down, until I walked up to it. Then it took off. Luckily I realized I hit high, reloaded and snuck in at the ready and was able to put one through the boilermaker on the run.

One year we found a broad head lodged in the vertebrae of a rifle killed bull.
And another time we found a healed up bullet hole in  an archery killed bull. The bullet shattered/removed the arch off of the vertebrae.

I guess "no possible way" is a pretty bold statement but it's still hard to feature that this particular wound was from a bullet
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

 


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