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This week the House Natural Resource Committee led by WA Republican Doc Hastings voted to approve a bill that would add 22,000 acres of USFS land to the Alpine Lakes Wilderness Area. The bill is sponsored by Republican Dave Reichert and Democrat Susan Delbene. Reichert has sponsored bills similar to this one since 2006. Altough the bill was passed out of the NRC they did add some "controversial" amendments to the bill. In addition to the wilderness expansion, the bill would classify the entire Pratt River and the Middle Fork of the Snoqualmie that is on USFS lands as "Wild and Scenic."

The bill now heads to full House for a vote. A similar bill passed in 2013 in the US Senate. If this bill were to pass both the House and Senate it would be just the second wilderness expansion bill to pass in the current Congress. Many believe the make-up of the Hastings led NRC have led to a stoppage/blocking of wilderness expansion bills.

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Alpine Lakes Wilderness Area Expansion Bill Clears Key Committee In Congress

A bill that would expand the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area east of Seattle is one step closer to becoming law. For the first time in nearly four years, the proposal has moved forward in the U.S. House. 

The legislation, called the Alpine Lakes Wilderness Additions and Pratt and Middle Fork Snoqualmie Rivers Protection Act (H.R. 361), has now passed out of the House Natural Resources Committee. Aside from a brief hearing last year, it had languished there since its introduction in the House in January 2013.

The bill aims to add 22,000 acres of what is now National Forest land to the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area, north of Interstate 90. The wilderness area spans nearly 400,000 acres located roughly between Stevens Pass to the north and Snoqualmie Pass and I-90 to the south.

Tom Uniack, with the conservation group Washington Wild, says the legislation simply moves the wilderness boundary down the hill to add protections to lower elevations.

“These are where the old-growth trees and the mature trees are, it’s also where fish habitat and spawning streams are. And it’s where we find multi-season accessible recreation opportunities for families,” Uniack said. 

The legislation also includes designation of two wild and scenic river corridors in the area: along a 27-mile segment of the Middle Fork Snoqualmie and the 10-mile Pratt River. The bill would keep them free-flowing and require active management to protect their value.

Wilderness is the toughest form of protection for public lands. If the new designation is approved, camping and hiking would be still be allowed in the national forest areas, but logging, new mining claims and use of motorized equipment would not be allowed. Even mechanized equipment, including mountain bikes, would be prohibited.

But Uniak says Washington’s congressional delegation worked for five years, reaching out to potentially affected groups before the bill’s introduction and addressing their concerns. For example, he says the boundaries steer clear of an important mountain biking trail bordering on the wilderness and doesn’t touch operations of the nearby Alpenthal ski area. They also worked with the U.S. Department of Transportation to make sure they would be able to conduct avalanche control blasting to maintain I-90.

The Alpine Lakes expansion idea was first proposed in 2007 by Rep. Dave Reichert, R-Wash., who has continued to push it forward. The latest bill is co-sponsored by Rep. Suzan Delbene, D-Wash. Legislation identical to their proposal passed the full Senate after introduction there by U.S. Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

But the bill coming out of the House Committee on Wednesday included amendments that conservation groups called “unnecessary and problematic,” including a boundary adjustment that would subtract about a thousand acres from the new protections.

They also say a move to get rid of a quarter-mile buffer around the river areas could be a deal breaker, because it would significantly weaken the designation.

The amendments are designed to provide assurances for private property owners near the rivers. 

Those differences may determine whether the Alpine Lakes Wilderness expansion soon becomes law. No action is expected before Congress completes its August recess.

http://www.kplu.org/post/alpine-lakes-wilderness-area-expansion-bill-clears-key-committee-congress
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I can see it now..... With the Forest service paving almost 10miles of road out the middle fork, everyone will be hunting high buck next year in the Alpine. Yay. :bash:

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I can see it now..... With the Forest service paving almost 10miles of road out the middle fork, everyone will be hunting high buck next year in the Alpine. Yay. :bash:

Actually the Forest Service isn't the one paving the road. The Middle Fork area is a mixture of land ownership. The front end is DNR and King County lands, and the last few miles are Forest Service.

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I can see it now..... With the Forest service paving almost 10miles of road out the middle fork, everyone will be hunting high buck next year in the Alpine. Yay. :bash:

Actually the Forest Service isn't the one paving the road. The Middle Fork area is a mixture of land ownership. The front end is DNR and King County lands, and the last few miles are Forest Service.
I knew about the DNR land, Mail Box peak, up to granite lake, out towards mount bessemer, and the old CCC road. Didn't realize there was still some county land out there.

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I can see it now..... With the Forest service paving almost 10miles of road out the middle fork, everyone will be hunting high buck next year in the Alpine. Yay. :bash:

Actually the Forest Service isn't the one paving the road. The Middle Fork area is a mixture of land ownership. The front end is DNR and King County lands, and the last few miles are Forest Service.
I knew about the DNR land, Mail Box peak, up to granite lake, out towards mount bessemer, and the old CCC road. Didn't realize there was still some county land out there.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/amp_rec_snoqualmie_rec_plan_vicinity_map.pdf

All of the orange colored lands are King County. Which means its off limits to hunting.

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http://www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/amp_rec_snoqualmie_rec_plan_vicinity_map.pdf

All of the orange colored lands are King County. Which means its off limits to hunting.
good to know! Thanks! :tup:

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Would've thought this one would result in some negative posts  :dunno:

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Bigtex do you have a map showing the current boundaries along with the proposed expansion?

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At least they're not turning it into a National Park where hunting wouldn't be allowed. Seems to me that it's not really changing anything, is it? Isn't this area already wilderness anyway, even if not "official"?

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Bigtex do you have a map showing the current boundaries along with the proposed expansion?


Dark green = Current wilderness
Purple= Proposed wilderness
Light green= USFS non wilderness

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At least they're not turning it into a National Park where hunting wouldn't be allowed. Seems to me that it's not really changing anything, is it? Isn't this area already wilderness anyway, even if not "official"?
Correct. However I know there are many on here who aren't friendly with a wilderness designation....

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Thank you  :tup:

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Re: House Natural Resource Committee Approves Alpine Lakes Wilderness Expansion
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2014, 09:06:56 AM »
UPDATE

This bill has been included in the Defense Authorization bill which includes several other land management bills. It sounds like there is pretty wide support for the Defense Authorization bill. We should know the outcome by next week.

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Re: House Committee Approves Alpine Lakes Wilderness Expansion. 12/4 Update
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2014, 12:31:53 PM »
The National Defense Authorization Act passed the House today. It will go to the Senate for vote next week and then to the President.

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Re: House Committee Approves Alpine Lakes Wilderness Expansion. 12/4 Update
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 03:22:39 PM »
Good deal. Now if we can get them to pass the "wilderness study area" that is located on the east side, we'll really be in business.

 


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