pasayten high buck hunters in closed areas of harts pass.

[Elkaholic daWg]

"Alpine Lakes, Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, All
Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula, Henry Jackson
Wilderness Areas and Lake Chelan Recreation Area"

GMUs have nothing to do with the high hunt. The wilderness boundaries apply.

But in your opinion, is that clear in the regulations? As I previously posted, the listed areas are identified in the heading as "Game Management Units." So a guy would see that, then flip to the pages in the back, and read the description for the Pasayten GMU (203).

Nowhere does it say the wilderness boundary is the high hunt boundary.

Just how long have you been High buck hunting??? I haven't been in years but.......

Can you point me to the Mount Baker GMU? The Glacier Peak GMU? (Clark) The "All
Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula" GMU?

[WildlifeAssassin]

And I guess I didn't answer your question Bobcat, I feel it is clear, but could see how if you tried to read into it you could easily get turned around. And yes they could add a couple words and make it much more clear.

[bobcat]

"Alpine Lakes, Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, All
Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula, Henry Jackson
Wilderness Areas and Lake Chelan Recreation Area"

GMUs have nothing to do with the high hunt. The wilderness boundaries apply.

But in your opinion, is that clear in the regulations? As I previously posted, the listed areas are identified in the heading as "Game Management Units." So a guy would see that, then flip to the pages in the back, and read the description for the Pasayten GMU (203).

Nowhere does it say the wilderness boundary is the high hunt boundary.

Just how long have you been High buck hunting??? I haven't been in years but.......

Can you point me to the Mount Baker GMU? The Glacier Peak GMU? (Clark) The "All
Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula" GMU?

Since about 1987, but that's irrelevant. All I'm saying is the regulations are unclear. If you were a new hunter in this state and you read the regulations, what would you consider to be the boundary for the Pasayten high hunt?

[WildlifeAssassin]

Adding "Wilderness boundaries apply" would solve it...

[Methow Bowman]

Read the 218 description and says to the pasayten wilderness boundary
not in the pasayten. Please read your hunting u it description
I am not incorrect.
the Robinson creek trail is the border for the pasayten high hunt.
this is miles from the road hunting camps period.

[WildlifeAssassin]

Read the 218 description and says to the pasayten wilderness boundary
not in the pasayten. Please read your hunting u it description
I am not incorrect.
the Robinson creek trail is the border for the pasayten high hunt.
this is miles from the road hunting camps period.

I don't know the area you are speaking of well, I am only speaking in regards to the regulations.

[bobcat]

Looking at the 2010 regulations, the wording is slightly different, making it clear that it is actually the Pasayten Wilderness they're talking about, not the GMU.

Here's how it reads:  "Alpine Lakes, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, and Henry Jackson Wilderness Areas, and wilderness areas on the Olympic Peninsula, and Lake Chelan Recreation Area."

[WildlifeAssassin]

OLD
"Alpine Lakes, Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Pasayten, All
Wilderness Areas on the Olympic Peninsula, Henry Jackson
Wilderness Areas and Lake Chelan Recreation Area"

BETTER

"Alpine Lakes, Glacier Peak, Henry Jackson, Mount Baker
and Pasayten Wilderness Areas, All Wilderness Areas on
the Olympic Peninsula and Lake Chelan Recreation Area"

[X-Force]

WSR 98-05-081 1998 has 203 Pasayten: The Pasayten Wilderness Area.


I know the camps Method Bowman is talking about and they are good distance from the wilderness area.

[X-Force]

I can't pull it up for a screen shot on my phone but if you go to wildeness.net or pick up a forestry map of the area the Pasayten wilderness bountry off of harts pass is not the Robinson creek trail. Its the ridge line down from harts pass then crosses Robinson creek.

Those camps on the road have a heck of a climb to get anywhere near hunting area.

[Methow Bowman]

Let me be a little more clear, the rifle camps
that we are discussing are on Harts Pass from the top of harts pass to the "dead Horse Point" on Harts Pass. This is where the hunting is occurring that people are upset about.
they are hunting that stretch of road and hillsides.
they are not even making the hike to the ridge top that is still miles of hiking in to even hit the high hunt boundary. I am not speaking for any place else other then that.

[bobcat]

Need to get law enforcement headed that way ASAP!

[Methow Bowman]

The 203 hunt unit description
states the Robinson creek trail
to beyond slate peak before it's next intersection
and that is the next drainage over.
you have to go by the unit description
for the location.......
I hike the area often, it may look close on a map
until you actually hike in and do it.

[WaltAlpine]

I can't pull it up for a screen shot on my phone but if you go to wildeness.net or pick up a forestry map of the area the Pasayten wilderness bountry off of harts pass is not the Robinson creek trail. Its the ridge line down from harts pass then crosses Robinson creek.

Those camps on the road have a heck of a climb to get anywhere near hunting area.

There aren't many,  but a few make that climb to the ridge and hunt it every year.
I don't know anything about guys hunting the road side of the ridge. The way I read it you could hunt the ridge and the north side of the ridge an be okay.

[Methow Bowman]

When they are referring to the
Robinson creek trail in the hunt
boundary that is up the ridge
and starting up the next that is where
the Robinson trail is. The top is still along
way. It is all in the hunt description and knowing
where you are in relationship to it.