help needed with arrow and broadhead regs please

[Kc_Kracker]

ok so got my new bow paper tuned this morning and will be fine tuning sighting in today I grabbed a assortment of broadheads and a carrying case for them. I got 100 grain and 125 grain because thats all i saw. so i see in the regs it says

"unlawful to hunt with an arrow less than 20 inches in length OR weighing less then 6 grains per pound of draw weight with a minimum weight of 300 grains."

so does this mean my arrows must weight 175-200 grains (before the broadhead weight) , or does this mean if my arrows are over 20" im automatically good? all of my arrows are PSE 200's. but id like to replace them with some in the 300-400 range Im told 

thanks

[bobcat]

Multiply the weight your pulling back (60 lbs, 70 lbs?) by 6. That is how much your arrow must weigh, broadhead included.

[92xj]

Spine number does not equal weight. Your arrow will have a gr per inch number on them. Your complete assembled arrow must be equal or greater than your draw weight times six.

[rover758]

The way I understand it (someone jump in if I'm wrong) ... the 20 inches in length is a stand-alone requirement.  Not only do they have to be at least 20 inches but they also have a minimum weight. 

[Kc_Kracker]

92 there is nothing else on my arrows     

[92xj]

92 there is nothing else on my arrows     

What's the exact arrow and numbers on them, I will see if I can find the grains per inch for you.

[92xj]

Look at this link and see if your arrows are on here.  If so, look at the description and you will see the grains per inch weight of each arrow.
http://www.bowhunterssuperstore.com/arrow-shafts-c-520_1297.html?osCsid=b4a07409447c427751708b485cf5c538

[Stick em]

Your arrows have to be compliant with all the specs. At least 20 inches, you got that unless your really short.  6 grains per lb of draw weight, minimum 300 grains total. This includes your broadhead, insert, nock and vanes. I suggest getting a digital scale for weighing mail. Weigh your assembled arrow to insure legal specs. For example your shooting a 28 inch arrow that weighs 8.2 grains per inch, 100 grain tip, insert and vanes. It should weigh about 340 grains. That will be legal for 56lb draw or less. If you shoot a 70lb bow your arrow should weight 420 grains. The advantage of the scale you will notice that all arrows do not weight the same, even if they are all out of the same box.

[Rainier10]

Your arrows have to be compliant with all the specs. At least 20 inches, you got that unless your really short.  6 grains per lb of draw weight, minimum 300 grains total. This includes your broadhead, insert, nock and vanes. I suggest getting a digital scale for weighing mail. Weigh your assembled arrow to insure legal specs. For example your shooting a 28 inch arrow that weighs 8.2 grains per inch, 100 grain tip, insert and vanes. It should weigh about 340 grains. That will be legal for 56lb draw or less. If you shoot a 70lb bow your arrow should weight 420 grains. The advantage of the scale you will notice that all arrows do not weight the same, even if they are all out of the same box.

[Special T]

Has anyone actually been checked bor this BS rule?

Full length eason epics 400 are 31" long 8.6 GPI unless your a midget your shooting an arrow over 25" long. that right puts you right at 215 and that does not includethe fletching knock insert etc. so 100 grain broad head or more your fine.

I would imagine that where your going to run into trouble is a youth shooting a min legal draw weight (40-45lb bow). trying to get that to weight, shoot good and straight with out too much additional arch.

I would bet you have a 60lb bow and a 28 in draw. So it is very likely that your arrow is at LEAST 28" long if not longer. arrows tend to shoot better with the weight balanced more forward slightly....

This state should just do a MIN calculation for KE  something like the min arrow is 20" with a weight based on the 40-45lb min lb draw... 

[Rainier10]

I see in your other thread about the new bow, it cam with PSE Sniper arrows.  I see in your original post here that they are PSE 200's.  If I combine those I come up with PSE Sniper 200's and according to the PSE site they are 8.6 grains per inch.  Measure your arrow length probably around 28 or 29" so you have 220-250 grains there, nock, insert and vanes are going to add 30 grains and then the broadhead is the variable to get you to final weight.  Now you just have to know your draw weight multiply it by 6 and that is what is your minimum arrow weight is.  If you bow is under 65 pounds of draw and you use the 125 broadhead you should be good to go.

[Kc_Kracker]

yes rainier i have pse 200, and pse snipers. but nothing is on them for grains at all. and the regs ____ OR ______, so the way its written anything over 20" is good. but id still like to understand this and have a better arrow anyways. 200 spline seems a bit low 

[Rainier10]

I went to the PSE website and got the grains per inch off of the spec page for the 200 spine arrows.  The regs are confusing for sure.  I would just take the setup to a bow shop and they should be able to tell you if what you have is legal and can walk you through all of the rules.  Face to face dialogue is better than the email or message thing over the internet.

[wildmanoutdoors]

KC what is your draw weight on the bow?
Take that and multiply it by 6. Then weigh your complete arrow setup and see if its heavier than the number you got when you multiplied your draw weight by 6. If it is your good to go!

[winshooter88]

KC it is confusing, but what it means is you can't hunt with an arrow less than 20 inches long and you can't hunt with an arrow that weighs less than 6 grains per pound of draw weight, it is not one or the other, it has to meet both requirements.