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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2014, 09:32:14 AM »

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.
i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

There was an amazing amount of sarcasm intended in my post. I took the OP's handle and ran with it. Sorry for the confusion. I'm actually in the process of potentially building a long range rifle myself. I was thinking of setting a blind 783 yards away from my salt lick. 
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2014, 09:38:37 AM »

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.
i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

There was an amazing amount of sarcasm intended in my post. I took the OP's handle and ran with it. Sorry for the confusion. I'm actually in the process of potentially building a long range rifle myself. I was thinking of setting a blind 783 yards away from my salt lick. 
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2014, 09:43:19 AM »

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.
i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

There was an amazing amount of sarcasm intended in my post. I took the OP's handle and ran with it. Sorry for the confusion. I'm actually in the process of potentially building a long range rifle myself. I was thinking of setting a blind 783 yards away from my salt lick. 
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Sarcasm again....... Right?  :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2014, 09:51:23 AM »

I figured since the topic was posted to gather support to maintain baiting for deer and elk and thosewho do not support baiting not to respond. Well that is aarrogance at its finest. If anything I think washington would be better to go to no baiting like missouri does. If it grows it IS NOT BAITING. If you place it on the ground it is baiting. Just my thoughts but, if you just have to dump a bunch of hay or apples on the ground you might as well do a canned hunt.

I'd like to start a campaign to create a new law restricting rifle hunting to shots no more than 300 yards. Anything more than that is not hunting. It's just shooting and there's no skill involved in that.
i disagree with this statement. Not everyone can just pick up a rifle and hit what they shoot at. Especially it to 800-1000+ yards. There is a lot of skill involved. I think your statement is ignorant!

There was an amazing amount of sarcasm intended in my post. I took the OP's handle and ran with it. Sorry for the confusion. I'm actually in the process of potentially building a long range rifle myself. I was thinking of setting a blind 783 yards away from my salt lick. 
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Now that's funny.
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2014, 09:57:29 AM »
You seem intent on just starting a fight and not really having a conversation......pointless. And netcoyote nailed it with his post.
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2014, 10:00:32 AM »
Dear longrangehunter,
I think it's an unfair advantage to hunt at long ranges. Ban long range shots!

I take exception to this post.  I think we need a law which the hunter must only take 1000+ yard shots.
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2014, 10:05:38 AM »
I could accept a decision that was based on sound scientific data, how ever that is absent from this whole dilemma.  I will agree with many about the mixed success results of baiting.  I see way more hunters fail over bait then succeed.  I know areas up here where it has actually become counter productive, and those who have moved on from relying on bait, have actually had better success. 

It is but another method for hunters to engage in, and some older and disabled hunters rely on TRYING to bring deer in as they can not pursue them beyond their limits.  So dont be fooled by the automatic success label many put on baiting. 

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say no to baiting
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2014, 10:07:21 AM »
You seem intent on just starting a fight and not really having a conversation......pointless. And netcoyote nailed it with his post.

Just stating my opinion, is that not allowed? If people managed herds over a long duration it would have an impact, however baiting occurs FOR THE MOST PART, a few days or morning of opening day apples, corn, hay goes on the ground.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about in regards to baiting if you think it just happens a couple days before opening day.
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2014, 10:10:08 AM »
You seem intent on just starting a fight and not really having a conversation......pointless. And netcoyote nailed it with his post.

Just stating my opinion, is that not allowed? If people managed herds over a long duration it would have an impact, however baiting occurs FOR THE MOST PART, a few days or morning of opening day apples, corn, hay goes on the ground.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about in regards to baiting if you think it just happens a couple days before opening day.

The last part says it all...................and then some, youve now exposed yourself.

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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2014, 10:10:20 AM »
I dump a lot of bait on both private and public lands....I sure don't have that many animals flocking to my piles.
Sure wish I did.

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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2014, 10:10:28 AM »
I have a couple salt licks on private land. Very well travelled ones. I have lots and lots of pictures of deer, elk, lions, coyotes, you name it.  400" bulls, 160" mule deer, big whitetails, etc.
My buddy sat in a blind on one of those sites for 2 days and didn't see an animal. That particular site has been baited consistently for 2 years now.
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2014, 10:11:08 AM »
I want a law stating that you can only carry 1 rifle round, one muzzleloader charge and one arrow while out hunting.  After all, if you can't get it done in one shot, you do not deserve to be hunting.   :chuckle:
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2014, 10:13:24 AM »
You seem intent on just starting a fight and not really having a conversation......pointless. And netcoyote nailed it with his post.

Just stating my opinion, is that not allowed? If people managed herds over a long duration it would have an impact, however baiting occurs FOR THE MOST PART, a few days or morning of opening day apples, corn, hay goes on the ground.
no baiting needs to be started months in advance if you want to actually draw anything in. I feed the deer year round with corn,high protein mineral supplement and two large food plots. 90% of all visitors to my place are at night.  Rarely do I get a deer off this place but I love doing it. Baiting is not what many believe it to be. Its very expensive!
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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2014, 10:14:48 AM »
Please enlighten me on how EVERYONE baits game animals?

Please enlighten me on how you think everyone baits? You seem to have a picture painted in your head about bait piles, now paint that picture.

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Re: say no to baiting
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2014, 10:17:45 AM »
I want a law that says you can't hike more than 50 yards from a road if you are hunting.  This way it gives animals more room to escape.
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