:)I shot a 2 point Blacktail, 200 yards, 243 80 grain blue box federal ammo(cheap). The deer was laying down looking at me, he was lined out straight away his head in line with his body. I shot him just under the nose. He flipped completely over end wise, belly up, not a kick. I was impressed with the impact. By the way I have a target with 10 of those in under an inch, I use quite a bit of that ammo if shooting factory loaded ammo.
Carl