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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 05:14:30 PM »
Saw piebald deer in the Swakane drainage.
Reading these posts, there was no mention of length of hair. The one I saw had hair 6 inches long and the ears had long silky hair.

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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2019, 05:18:50 PM »
There are several running around downtown Orting in the field next to the high school, used to have a pic of 3 in the field at the same time but cant seem to find it

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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2019, 11:35:53 PM »
BTW, I said piebaldism wasn't related to inbreeding, but in certain situations where bucks can't or don't disperse and leave their maternal homes (such as an island or other geographically isolated area), a situational inbreeding likely occurs - not brother to sister, but after awhile the chances that a breeding pair is distantly related increases.  Since the recessive gene is passed to all offspring and continues to be passed through many generations, after awhile, a slightly larger percentage (than normal) of the deer population carry the gene, which increases the chance that both mating pairs having the gene (which produces the piebald fawn). 

 
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2019, 06:00:33 PM »
Theres a piebald blacktail doe out in the fields by orting highschool every couple days. Also had a couple guys tell me they saw a couple piebalds in the Kapowsin area. Just a random mutation. Sure would be cool to tag one!

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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2019, 06:55:17 PM »
I see em from time to time around here as well. A buddy of mine who is also a member on here and I doubled up on bucks one day years ago and one was a piebald.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2019, 08:05:22 PM »
I saw one last year in the LT Murray as well.  Doe
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2019, 09:09:19 PM »
I see the pictures of piebald deer. The one in entiat that I saw would "qualify". But the hair on the back was 4-6 inches long. The hair on the ears were a couple of inches long. the hair was silky and even its face had long hair. The hair on its side were several inches long. I had a late buck permit, but when I saw this deer, I stopped hunting and stared at it. The pictures I took were of no use. Too far away.
I could see the silky hair on its ears. They were long.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2019, 10:54:53 PM »
There are a number in the San Juan Islands, especially on Orcas Island.  I think those deer out there don't have the "predation penalty" for light patches that mainland deer do!

I've seen two here on Decatur.  I'd shoot one given the chance.

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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2019, 04:31:15 PM »
Just passed a piebald in Orting.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2019, 05:42:51 PM »
Get a few of those in every year for mounts/tanning. Heres a pic of one I did last year from a huntress's mule deer. Dry tanned and rugged it to show the color.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2019, 09:13:08 PM »
Nice! I would do a rug type tan as well.

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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2019, 11:36:38 PM »
I saw one spring bear hunting in Skagit last year.  Didn’t know the existed until I saw it.  I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot one.


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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2019, 11:13:23 AM »
There's a piebald doe that sometimes hangs out in the small forest behind my house in Woodinville, part of a herd of 8 or so that have managed to make their home on Hollywood Hill. I can't imagine there's much predation of adult deer in this area (my wife and I never saw a single deer for the first 10 years we lived here, and now we see herds of them pretty regularly), so that would be consistent with the "no predator penalty" for the mutation. It'll be interesting to see if the gene carries through to future generations.

This would be an interesting test-case of my theory that, over time, Blacktail (and probably other flavors) will begin to develop into separate wild and suburban subspecies. In order for suburban deer to survive, they need to not be too concerned about humans, because the closer they get to humans, the better they're protected from predators. No soccer mom is going to stand for coyotes killing fawns in her backyard, however many of her roses get eaten. In contrast, because of hunting pressure, wild deer need to stay as frightened of humans as possible. Over time, this is going to select for radically different behavior and survival strategies. Assuming we humans are still around in 100 years and still have backyards and greenbelts, I would be surprised if it weren't possible to identify the different subspecies morphologically. The piebald trait might end up being one of those morphological characteristics.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2019, 05:14:32 PM »
A buddy sent this to me. Pic taken in orting.
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Re: Piebald Deer
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2019, 06:05:04 PM »
There are a number in the San Juan Islands, especially on Orcas Island.  I think those deer out there don't have the "predation penalty" for light patches that mainland deer do!

I've seen two here on Decatur.  I'd shoot one given the chance.

Bad joo-joo, bad karma, Ive had my chance at 2 good bucks that were either albino or piebald in the Methow years ago, my dad always said don't even look at em :chuckle: Actually pulling the trigger on one, Heck no :chuckle:, you have been warned :hello:


 


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