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Here's a news flash!!! Fee increases are only being proposed to cripple the cattle industry. OB is anti- beef and will do anything to cripple it. His wife is out promoting not to eat beef and to eat green. If you support increases, your supporting OB and the liberal agenda in my book. As a beef owner, if you think your paying high prices for beef now, you haven't seen anything if this passes.
Grazing use on public lands has declined from 18.2 million AUMs in 1954 to 7.9 million AUMs in 2013. In most years, the actual use of forage is less than the amount authorized because forage amounts and demands depend on several factors, such as drought, wildfire, and market conditions, as noted earlier regarding annual public land grazing levels.(source: BLM as cited below)
Ranchers had a bad run for many years, I think it's good that grazing fees were kept low to help keep ranchers in business. We would lose more if those ranchers all lost the ranch. But inflation occurs with everything and now ranchers are making good money on beef. I don't have a problem with bringing grazing leases up to speed, but it seems like it would be more appropriate to phase in the increase over a 2 or 3 year period rather than one huge increase all at once. That would be like a truck driver going to the fuel stop the next day and having to pay 5 times as much for fuel. It's much easier to absorb incremental increases in costs.
Quote from: bearpaw on April 01, 2015, 11:43:06 PMRanchers had a bad run for many years, I think it's good that grazing fees were kept low to help keep ranchers in business. We would lose more if those ranchers all lost the ranch. But inflation occurs with everything and now ranchers are making good money on beef. I don't have a problem with bringing grazing leases up to speed, but it seems like it would be more appropriate to phase in the increase over a 2 or 3 year period rather than one huge increase all at once. That would be like a truck driver going to the fuel stop the next day and having to pay 5 times as much for fuel. It's much easier to absorb incremental increases in costs.Ranchers did have a bad run for a few years. Should have never gotten to those extremes. Only reason it did was because the governments hand has been in it for a long time. If it was just left to something as simple as supply and demand everything would have worked itself out on its own in a much simpler way. But the government did get involved a long time ago and made a mess of it.Take a look at this https://www.whitehouse.gov/2013-taxreceipt with much pressure they are at least now claiming they are telling you where your money goes? But when you try to click on estimated income it will only go to $80K married with 2 children. $80k with 2 children is a decent living, but why will they top their example at that? Could it be because when you go over that it gets really scary how much and where your tax dollars go? So if you are married and make 80k and have 2 kids you pay $50 a year towards agriculture. Why? And that is on a fairly small income. I have never asked to get subsided in my business, and bearpaw I have never seen you ask for that in yours either. So why should some small groups and not yours or mine get it on lean years and not others?Also notice #3 on the list they nicely call Job and Family Security. Almost makes you feel good about it..... That is welfare and similar programs , pubic housing, and indian money.
Quote from: bearpaw on April 01, 2015, 11:43:06 PMRanchers had a bad run for many years, I think it's good that grazing fees were kept low to help keep ranchers in business. We would lose more if those ranchers all lost the ranch. But inflation occurs with everything and now ranchers are making good money on beef. I don't have a problem with bringing grazing leases up to speed, but it seems like it would be more appropriate to phase in the increase over a 2 or 3 year period rather than one huge increase all at once. That would be like a truck driver going to the fuel stop the next day and having to pay 5 times as much for fuel. It's much easier to absorb incremental increases in costs.Bearpaw thanks for the support and you bring up some good points. I personally don't lease land, but know many that do. If the prices were raised periodically with inflation many wouldn't squabble to much. But to slam everybody now, will cripple many ranchers. This was the first year I have been in the black in years! And that's with the highest feed bills I have ever had. Most of you know Ranching is up and down. It's usually down. Right after I wrote my response within a day, the government came out with a study hammering red meat. They trying to control our everyday lives with there false propaganda.
We also helped large auto makers, banks, dozens of countries, illegal aliens, and anyone who is too lazy to work in this country is still subsidized with a free ride. I simply don't see ranchers as being the bad guys and don't regret that we saved a few ranches from being lost to big corporate ag.