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Offline idahohuntr

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Re: Nature Conservancy Hoh River Land Buy
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 07:15:45 AM »
I'm a big fan of the Nature Conservancy. They are able to protect a lot of land that is most often very important fish and wildlife habitat, and on much of the land they own, hunting is allowed. What's not to like about that? They're not charging for access like all the timber companies do. Maybe do a little research on the Nature Conservancy, it just might change your opinion. They're really not much different than the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation in what they do.

Sounds like YOU HAVE dranken there KOOL-AID  lock stock and BARREL.  Why do RESEARCH?  It's just a bunch of PROPAGANDA by there COMMY friends    :chuckle: :bash:
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Re: Nature Conservancy Hoh River Land Buy
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 02:19:30 PM »
The Nature Conservancy has had a change in philosophy since the Elk River War. When Elliott Marks left they have become much more receptive to hunting.

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Re: Nature Conservancy Hoh River Land Buy
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 08:09:30 PM »
Free market at work.

I don't know when the last time western National Parks added to their ownership by buying large blocks of private land outside of inholdings.  I would bet it was before I was born while Ike was President.

In fact, I bet Ike was a Major when it last happened.
Knocker is right.

Many people have this fear of any land that is close to a park will eventually become a park. In reality, adding lands to a park is pretty difficult.

Each NPS unit has a boundary (duh) and those lands within that boundary may be entirely govt or a mix. Those private lands within a boundary is known as an "inholding." The boundary is essentially the acquisition boundary. The agency has the approval from Congress to acquire any private lands within that boundary, all the agency has to do is fund it. The NPS cannot acquire lands outside of the boundary.

So lets say the NPS wants to acquire lands outside the boundary, what needs to happen is Congress will have to approve a bill that expands/changes the boundary. This sounds easy, but there have been largely bipartisan bills of similar nature in Congress for years. Once that happens then the NPS can acquire the lands.

So realistically if I had 1,000 acres of land next to Olympic NP outside of their boundary and I wanted to donate the lands upon my death, I couldn't do so. Congress would have to approve a bill to expand the boundary to include those lands, then once that happens the donation proceedings can occur.

There is an exemption which allows parks to acquire very small pieces of land without Congressional approval which will result in the boundary being changed, but again those are very small pieces of land.

National Forests and National Wildlife Refuges basically have to follow the same rules. They can't acquire lands outside of their boundary without congressional approval. The only agency without such boundaries is BLM. If someone donated 10 acres of land to BLM in downtown Seattle, BLM could take it.

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Re: Nature Conservancy Hoh River Land Buy
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2015, 08:33:00 PM »
Doing research on The Nature Conservancy reveals to me that they have done an incredible amount of good for wildlife and habitat preservation.

I was a member for years, but then didn't renew because I was putting my money into RMEF and American Rivers. This thread has me thinking it might be time to re-up with TNC. I would certainly rather have land in TNC's hands, even if it wasn't huntable, than in the hands of developers.

I always used to appreciate the bumper sticker that read "Cows, not Condos." In this case, I'll change that to "TNC, no Condos."

John
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Jim Posewitz, Inherit the Hunt

 


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