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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2015, 07:23:05 AM »
The wife doesn't have another caliber she can shoot. The loads are 90 gr nosler accubond coming out the muzzle around 3200fps. I know the solids I have basically will just make a 243 size hole past 300 yards. I'm thinking the way she can shoot with the nosler anything under 300 and the bullet can do its job the accubond will have about 1200ftlbs of energy left at 300.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2015, 07:36:25 AM »
Look up American rifleman,  "enough gun for elk-elk cartridges"  by Bryce towsly.   Very convincing argument against light guns.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2015, 07:48:07 AM »
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2015, 07:54:30 AM »
That, and looking back on my experience guiding hunters and my own experience,  3/4's of the elk shot were quartering away. Not good 243 territory.   Demontang,  ain't no one arguing that it ain't accurate enough. It is. That's why it's such a good varmint round.
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2015, 08:18:52 AM »
If you're worried about hitting the shoulder I'd say go with the GMX. Mono bullets are in there element  when it comes to hard bone and penetrating. That being said, I'd tell her to avoid heavy bone with a 243 like she'd avoid the plague. I myself would probably take the Accubond load and limit myself to the same shot angles I take with my bow, broadside, quartering away, and avoid heavy bones at all costs. If she takes shoulder shots, she needs a bigger bullets than you can get for a 243.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2015, 09:06:34 AM »
I have her trained to hit heart lung. I know *censored* happens I've been looking for 338 federal for her.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2015, 11:53:00 AM »
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2015, 12:03:24 PM »
Yea it's why I love my 338win. She is just a small framed person and can't take the larger calibers. I'd really like to get her a 338 federal in a ar platform to help kill the recoil.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2015, 01:13:56 PM »
  When it comes time to go looking for her elk give a shout here, if not working I'll come help. Probably a few others too.

.243 not unethical, but in all but the most ideal of situations it's a pretty iffy round. Lightest I would go would be a .300 Savage within 200 yards. I have seen and found too many elk wounded from less than ideal shots from lighter calibers.
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2015, 02:21:53 PM »
I know she wouldn't take a shot unless I've told her. I don't see her just wounding something.  The bullet will do its job I'm sure and she is very accurate. Looking as a 300 Sav vs the 243 the 243 holds higher ke a 300 Sav with 180gr round has 900ke at 300 yards vs 1209ke for the 90 gr 243. I think bullet choice shot placement is the key.
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2015, 02:30:54 PM »
I have seen a 22MAG drop many steers dead in their tracks when whacked in the melon at 10 feet....


so, yeah, shot placement counts!!

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2015, 02:42:17 PM »
Stay away from the shoulders.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2015, 02:55:08 PM »
What if it's the last day of the hunt, last hour, and you just huffed up a hill only to see elk moving into the timber at a quartering away at 280 yards. You have a two or three second window of opportunity.  Gonna pass that shot?

 I don't know very many elk hunters who would.
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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2015, 03:06:45 PM »
Yea it's why I love my 338win. She is just a small framed person and can't take the larger calibers. I'd really like to get her a 338 federal in a ar platform to help kill the recoil.
That's the very caliber I started hunting elk with, when I rifle hunted. My mentors I hunted with all shot 338wm. It definitely gives you some room for error on shot placement if you have a small window of opportunity or can't get the best angle but still have an ethical shot that you wouldn't take with a 90gr bullet. .338wm is a flat out elk hammer.

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Re: 243 win with 90 gr accubond for elk?
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2015, 03:16:58 PM »
What if it's the last day of the hunt, last hour, and you just huffed up a hill only to see elk moving into the timber at a quartering away at 280 yards. You have a two or three second window of opportunity.  Gonna pass that shot?

 I don't know very many elk hunters who would.

Well you haven't seen me hunt I've passed on shots that made me eat tags. She wouldn't shoot unless I told her, if that was the shot then no elk.

 


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