damage elk hunt being sold master hunt

[Blacktail Sniper]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Actually, it is not legal.  Cutting a hole in a fence that you do not own is damaging property, either a private person (neighbor) or the state's property. 

If it is your fence you are cutting up, then it would be legal...silly...but still legal.

[bullkiller]

Naches sportsmen

I wouldn't make accusations on reports you have heard. I would have real facts or personally seen the damage being done before making accusations.  I have spent plenty of time up there and seen people cutting holes into the fence just to gain access. 

[Naches Sportsman]

Naches sportsmen

I wouldn't make accusations on reports you have heard. I would have real facts or personally seen the damage being done before making accusations.  I have spent plenty of time up there and seen people cutting holes into the fence just to gain access.

Happens every year this time of year and it is always in the same area that the fence and gates are messed with. He is mainly the guy in the spotlight as he is well known for his efforts of getting elk onto his land for master hunters. Master hunters were meant to get rid of elk on private land doing damage. This guy intentionally wants the elk on his land so master hunters will pay him an access fee. Seems ..... up, doesn't it?

If you intentionally want elk on your land, master hunters shouldn't be legally allowed to hunt it.

[BAR C3]

Naches sportsmen

I wouldn't make accusations on reports you have heard. I would have real facts or personally seen the damage being done before making accusations.  I have spent plenty of time up there and seen people cutting holes into the fence just to gain access.

Happens every year this time of year and it is always in the same area that the fence and gates are messed with. He is mainly the guy in the spotlight as he is well known for his efforts of getting elk onto his land for master hunters. Master hunters were meant to get rid of elk on private land doing damage. This guy intentionally wants the elk on his land so master hunters will pay him an access fee. Seems ..... up, doesn't it?

If you intentionally want elk on your land, master hunters shouldn't be legally allowed to hunt it.

and I'm a land owner with cattle.
Should be no Master Hunter tags for damage hunts.  Like I have said before, offer them up for unsuccessful Veteran's, disabled hunters, and youth only. At no cost! Land owner don't like it, no hunt

[Naches Sportsman]

Wheels, try contacting the wdfw conflict specialist in region 3 after the 1st of the year. They like to help out disabled hunters and help getting a hold of landowners with damage permits-free of charge.

[Humptulips]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Bob,
I think you are missing the point. The damage permits are issued because someone is having problems with in this case elk. The point being WDFW is trying to help the guy run the elk off to reduce damage. Should the tags be issued if the landowner is making an effort to lure the elk onto their land or even defeating measures to keep the elk off?
 If he wants to lure the elk on his property and charge for access he could do it during general season but this seems like an abuse of the damage control hunts.

[rackattack]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Bob,
I think you are missing the point. The damage permits are issued because someone is having problems with in this case elk. The point being WDFW is trying to help the guy run the elk off to reduce damage. Should the tags be issued if the landowner is making an effort to lure the elk onto their land or even defeating measures to keep the elk off?
 If he wants to lure the elk on his property and charge for access he could do it during general season but this seems like an abuse of the damage control hunts.

   Doesn't seem right if he is indeed inviting them onto his property so he can sell access fees.

[billythekidrock]

Here was the latest picture I saw.

Wow

[Bob33]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Bob,
I think you are missing the point. The damage permits are issued because someone is having problems with in this case elk. The point being WDFW is trying to help the guy run the elk off to reduce damage. Should the tags be issued if the landowner is making an effort to lure the elk onto their land or even defeating measures to keep the elk off?
 If he wants to lure the elk on his property and charge for access he could do it during general season but this seems like an abuse of the damage control hunts.

This is a general season for Master Hunters. No damage permit is required. I could be wrong but I really doubt he got 32 damage permits last year.

[PlateauNDN]

"Just cause it's legal......

[Dan-o]

"Just cause it's legal......

Hey, I see what you're trying to do there......   No fair using a single standard!!!

[Humptulips]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Bob,
I think you are missing the point. The damage permits are issued because someone is having problems with in this case elk. The point being WDFW is trying to help the guy run the elk off to reduce damage. Should the tags be issued if the landowner is making an effort to lure the elk onto their land or even defeating measures to keep the elk off?
 If he wants to lure the elk on his property and charge for access he could do it during general season but this seems like an abuse of the damage control hunts.

This is a general season for Master Hunters. No damage permit is required. I could be wrong but I really doubt he got 32 damage permits last year.

The OP talks about damage tags. I didn't see anywhere a word was mentioned about this being during a general season. The entire thread is talking about damage tags. If you have more information maybe that would clear it up.

[Karl Blanchard]

"Just cause it's legal......

Hey you stay out of this red man!  We will get to the Indian bashing soon enough!  Wait your turn   (<Are you seeing how serious that face is!?!!  That is an aggressive grimace )













 

[Dan-o]

Using bait to lure elk onto your property is completely legal.

Charging an access fee to have someone come on your property to shoot the baited animal is completely legal.

It would appear that some have missed the message: if you don't like baiting, don't do it. Taking away the right to bait is just the first step.

It sounds like we have a few anti-hunters who want to strip away our hunting rights, one by one.

Cutting a hole in an elk fence, then setting bait out so elk will come through the hole, just so you can get damage tags to sell is not what I would call ethical baiting practices.  Shouldn't be spun any other way

I agree but it is legal, and you know how that goes...

Bob,
I think you are missing the point. The damage permits are issued because someone is having problems with in this case elk. The point being WDFW is trying to help the guy run the elk off to reduce damage. Should the tags be issued if the landowner is making an effort to lure the elk onto their land or even defeating measures to keep the elk off?
 If he wants to lure the elk on his property and charge for access he could do it during general season but this seems like an abuse of the damage control hunts.

This is a general season for Master Hunters. No damage permit is required. I could be wrong but I really doubt he got 32 damage permits last year.

The OP talks about damage tags. I didn't see anywhere a word was mentioned about this being during a general season. The entire thread is talking about damage tags. If you have more information maybe that would clear it up.

Bob33 is right.
There is a season open over there for Master Hunters.    No additional "damage tag" required.

The OP might not have stated it quite correctly....

[JDHasty]

If you are claiming damage and enlisting WDFW to spend Sportsman's dollars for a wildlife conflict specialist to work with you to reduce conflict and then you turn around and charge the Master Hunter an access fee I would say that you are not serious about having a conflict that you want resolved.  You are gaming the system and IMHO the limits of the open area should not include your property. 

Full disclosure: I am a Master Hunter.  Never needed to consider paying an access fee though, where I have been called out to the property owner was serious about needing relief.  It also sounds to me like this guy is deliberately bringing elk onto his property, if that is the case then why should the WDFW work to get them off his property?