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Video of Rage Broadhead test
« on: February 03, 2016, 03:23:00 PM »
Saw this video for you Rage Shooters
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2016, 03:55:24 PM »
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2016, 04:07:31 PM »
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2016, 04:10:09 PM »
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 04:12:46 PM »
There you go !!! Junk !!  That one time and that one animal that could be lost says enough for me !!!  FIXED ONLY ...Hahaha

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 04:20:00 PM »
Probably wouldn't use them to shoot beef.....but they sure work good on elk! 

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 04:36:03 PM »
Probably wouldn't use them to shoot beef.....but they sure work good on elk!

Ever hit a shoulder with one?
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2016, 04:43:14 PM »
No beef was harmed in the making of the video. 
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 04:58:41 PM »
Beef or elk shoulder? :)

No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots. 

How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is? 


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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2016, 05:01:59 PM »
I have never been a big fan of the HIT system.  But I have used the FMJ to kill a few elk - all broadside chest shots.  All complete pass thru.  I have never experienced any failure even close to that.  Not even when using aluminum ferruled broadheads.  Got to wonder if the insert this guy is using was not properly glued.  I never use the epoxy Easton sends with the arrows.  Even after cleaning the shaft id with alcohol I didn't like the bond I got.  Ended up using Black Max Loc-Tite and never had an issue.  Curious if that would have made a difference.

This year Easton is offering a 6-40 stainless steel Deep Six insert that will fit the X-shaft diameters.  So the old FMJ and Axis shafts can be used as Deep Six compatible shafts.  Not sure I would use an aluminum ferrule in 6-40 but we will have a titanium DelMastro and VanDyke in Deep Six this year.  Slick Trick has a Deep Six that looks good and I think there are a couple other steel ferruled models coming out this year.  Might strengthen those HIT shafts quite a bit!
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2016, 05:31:28 PM »
Beef or elk shoulder? :)

No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots. 

How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is?

Elk shoulders are pretty "beefy"
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2016, 05:36:26 PM »
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2016, 06:47:58 PM »
[Beef or elk shoulder? 

No, but killed 3 mature bulls (elk) with double lung shots. 

How bought you....any failures with expandable on shoulders...on elk that is?
]

[Elk shoulders are pretty "beefy"]

Ya, better shot is the double lung.

Just sayin that beef ribs vs. elk ribs doesn't seem to be a real fair comparison.  Beef seem thicker, stronger, more dense.  Would have been nice to see the demonstration done on a lighter boned animal....more comparable to elk.  Also would have liked to see a fixed blade demonstration on the same/equal target.  Just for comparison. 

Although, I likely wouldn't change to fixed blade since the Rage has produced incredible results for me and my hunting partners.  Big wound channels and deep penetration on big bodied elk out to 62 yards.  Hard for me to argue with success.

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2016, 08:05:19 PM »
I hear you  :tup:

My biggest thing is minimizing the risk should I hit a rib dead center.
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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2016, 09:51:37 PM »
Good thing that video wasn't shown to the people deciding to allow mechanicals.   :yike:

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2016, 09:55:12 PM »
almost seems that the arrow is as big a failure, maybe partially making the head fail. I don't use mechanicals never will, just a observation.

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2016, 11:43:17 PM »
Glancing shots are the absolute worst for broadhead durability.  Especially when glancing into another hard media at a different angle.  Very few broadheads on the market hold up to this type of torture - Mechanical or Fixed.  Many of our torture tests are designed so the product will fail.  Double angled glancing shots are one of the more certain ways to make that failure happen.  How it fails can tell you a lot!

I remember being at a 3-D shoot years ago where we had a corrugated culvert shot on a broadhead novelty target.  Three bucks a shot.  Successful shooters had a shoot off for all the money.  Idea was simple - understand your arrows arch and just get it through the tube and you would hit the target.  At the end of the day there was a pile of broadheads and arrows in a bucket on the exit side of the culvert.  Blades catching on the corrugation, arrows glancing around...it was devastating on arrows and broadheads.  No brand or model seemed to claim any superior high ground after a bad shot.  It destroyed everything!  Probably made the local shops a lot of extra money :chuckle:

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2016, 04:14:06 PM »
I truly believe archers should have (within reason) the choice to choose whatever product they think will perform the best with their given hunting style, setup, and ability and therefore applaud the fact that expandables have been legalized.

But I do question this attitude that somehow mechanicals are better on marginal shots? I can understand how a bigger entrance, with possibly more blood, bigger swathe MAY increase the chances of cutting something lethal on a certain percentage of shots that strike soft tissue and liver/gut hits etc. But what about the other percentage that go the other way, And result in significant contact with bone? Wouldn't the benefit of a stronger bladed broadhead be more desirable in that situation.

I really wanted to shoot an animal with an expandable this year for comparison. My quickest kill with a fixed blade is a estimated 2-3 seconds. both elk this year were combined well under 30 seconds. ( this is using "crash time", Not when I walked up. I still give elk a bit, to make sure I wasn't mistaking other elk "crashing" which has burned me in the past.)And the cow was what I consider a marginal hit. Does the extra cutting diameter make that big of a difference on "perfect" hits? 

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2016, 06:52:43 PM »
Ill never use a mechanical again. Forget elk or beef shoulder, I hit the biggest buck I have seen in the shoulder this last season and found my arrow 80 yards later with blood only down 4 inches of it. No penetration. Switched back to my shuttle T's after that and got sadly a different deer later in the season quartering away passthrough on close rib then out the opposite shoulder. I'm going to stick with what works from now on. I have 6 100g schwackers for sale if anyone is interested!  :dunno:

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Re: Video of Rage Broadhead test
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 04:32:38 PM »
Mixed thoughts: Both shots had the insert break free from the shaft almost as if it wasn't glued in correctly. Hard to tell for sure on the second shot but the first is obvious.
If that's the case, any broadhead could do the same thing under those circumstances.
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