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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2016, 07:44:36 AM »
They can have it right after the state closes the Purdy Creek Hatchery!  Within a few years there will not be a salmon in that whole system.
There will be, don't associate their desire to acquire our half of the quota with a take em all till they're all gone harvest strategy. While our non-tribal "tribe" of fisheries managers is all in on the anti-hatchery because hatchery fish are evil crusade. The Indian tribes certainly aren't of the same view. Considering they've already increased their hatchery capacity in the system any reduction on our end does nothing, but directly increase their market share.

This is business pure and simple. The whole anti-hatchery movement from our non-tribal tribe is an open door to the Indian tribes and they're certainly grabbing the bull by the horns, tactically and skillfully increasing their share and influence over the salmon industry with every move they make.
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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2016, 08:37:00 AM »
They can have it right after the state closes the Purdy Creek Hatchery!  Within a few years there will not be a salmon in that whole system.
There will be, don't associate their desire to acquire our half of the quota with a take em all till they're all gone harvest strategy. While our non-tribal "tribe" of fisheries managers is all in on the anti-hatchery because hatchery fish are evil crusade. The Indian tribes certainly aren't of the same view. Considering they've already increased their hatchery capacity in the system any reduction on our end does nothing, but directly increase their market share.

This is business pure and simple. The whole anti-hatchery movement from our non-tribal tribe is an open door to the Indian tribes and they're certainly grabbing the bull by the horns, tactically and skillfully increasing their share and influence over the salmon industry with every move they make.
:yeah:  When the resource is co-managed the various tribes (imo) don't do a good job or have a good image--mostly due to being fed up with WDFW.  Seems like they just go along with the state to not step on toes.  But once they get full control, it seems like they go to a different mindset.  The ones that come to mind are the Makah and the Quinault.  They have rivers on their reservations that are revenue generators for them and the fishing is quite a bit different than the shared rivers. 

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2016, 08:47:24 AM »
They have their own hatchery that was just completed at the Kokanee dam. I don't think they are too worried.


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How does that affect the Skok?

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2016, 09:00:57 AM »
they could release directly into the NF or truck smolts up the SF.

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2016, 07:19:19 AM »
Ya, I wasn't thinking about that too much when I replied. I was just visioning the hatchery at Potlatch for some reason. I work for Tacoma Power and have seen some info on the hatcheries. I'll have to look into them a little more.

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2016, 08:40:42 AM »
In another 30 years this state's fishing will be terrible.  Better start thinking about retiring in Oregon or near British Columbia.
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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2016, 08:58:25 AM »
In another 30 years this state's fishing will be terrible.  Better start thinking about retiring in Oregon or near British Columbia.
With all the people moving to Oregon I don't know if it will hold out much longer either.  Not as bad as Washington is getting, but they're on the same road it seems.

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2016, 01:05:15 PM »
Just another kick in the balls for WA Sportsmen.  We are losing opportunity all over the state every year, little by little.  We never get it back either.  Closing roads and Rivers... What a joke.
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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2016, 02:32:21 PM »
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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2016, 05:55:10 PM »
can we cuss when Hilary Clinton gets elected?

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2016, 06:07:51 PM »
Ha!  She ain't getting elected. Maybe charges pressed against her.  :chuckle:

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2016, 07:53:51 PM »
I hope she doesn't, but i'm afraid she will.  She will be 10 times worse than Obama.  ANYWAY... I believe closing the skok will have a big impact on the area.  The see the Hatchery being sold to the tribe in the future.

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Re: tribes "closing" skok
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2016, 08:28:32 PM »
I hope she doesn't, but i'm afraid she will.  She will be 10 times worse than Obama.  ANYWAY... I believe closing the skok will have a big impact on the area.  The see the Hatchery being sold to the tribe in the future.

Hadnt thought about that. But wouldn't surprise me. Still think that was the hidden agenda of why the WDFW chose the Gene banks that they did!

 


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