Re: dyed diesel in newer pickups

[jeepster]

First of all, not trying to break any rules or piss off the moderator

I found the thread about the dyed fuel rather interesting. In the boat world, our diesel is red... So it's interesting hearing about the cops acctually dipping fuel tanks.

One legal thing one might consider looking into, and I am not sure if this is still in effect, but I remember years ago my buddy's dad used to send the state all of his reciepts from the automotive fuel he put in his Grady white and they would refund the road tax as it was used in a non automotive vehicle.

One thing that might be worth looking into is whether or not you could do something similar with milage on non-managed roads ie off road use

[7mag.]

The way I understand it, dyed diesel is illegal for use in any vehicle licensed for on road use. Repair shops are supposed to turn in anybody they find breaking this law. There are certain components in the fuel system that are stained by dyed diesel.

[logger]

OOps!

[Boss .300 winmag]

Well I've seen filters come out of engines that ran red dye fuel (I have a diesel farm tractor), guess what they are black from the dirty fuel NOT RED! So if it doesn't stain fuel filters how is it going too stain engine parts? 

[logger]

I love how they want the shops to be their police dept.

First of all, not trying to break any rules or piss off the moderator

I found the thread about the dyed fuel rather interesting. In the boat world, our diesel is red... So it's interesting hearing about the cops acctually dipping fuel tanks.

One legal thing one might consider looking into, and I am not sure if this is still in effect, but I remember years ago my buddy's dad used to send the state all of his reciepts from the automotive fuel he put in his Grady white and they would refund the road tax as it was used in a non automotive vehicle.

One thing that might be worth looking into is whether or not you could do something similar with milage on non-managed roads ie off road use

 

years ago you were required to have a off road fuel permit, anybody can buy it now

[Miles]

Not worth the headache IMO.  I know I wouldn't put it in my truck.

[j_h_nimrod]

As far as I know there are no parts of the engine that are dyed red by the dye but the dye is a chemical compound and contains chemical markers that are detectable in extremely minute amounts. Can't see how they could realistically charge you just knowing there was once untaxed diesel in your tank. 

** This post is not supporting, condoning, and/or endorsing any illegal activities.  Any information contained here is for educational purposes only. **

[baker5150]

I'm curious how a LEO could dip your fuel tank without permission or a warrant?  If you have a fuel door latch that must be opened from the interior, how could they do it without permission?  Can they look under the hood?  I'd be curious to see where probable cause would come from. Other than an obvious leak or maybe a witness. 

Not condoning it in anyway,
Just plain old curious. 

[JODakota]

I'm curious how a LEO could dip your fuel tank without permission or a warrant?  If you have a fuel door latch that must be opened from the interior, how could they do it without permission?  Can they look under the hood?  I'd be curious to see where probable cause would come from. Other than an obvious leak or maybe a witness. 

Not condoning it in anyway,
Just plain old curious.

That's actually a great question.

[MisplacedAlaskan]

I have never heard of a tank getting dipped unless there was a external fuel tank in the bed. Does anyone have first hand experience with a tank getting dipped when external fuel tanks were not present?

As far as the fuel goes the red and green are exactly the same, you just don't pay taxes on the red.

[logger]

I have been dipped many times, most of our pickups have external tanks, they dip log trucks quite often, I have witnessed them at the livestock auction dipping tanks as well, don't see it much till the fuel price goes way up.

[UBA]

They dip lots of crew rigs also.

[jeepster]

Huh... I did not know we had diesel patrol.

So, keeping this within the realm of friendly, legal, moderator approved conversation, what if they dipped a tank and you were running veggie, or mineral or any other legal alternative fuel that can be used in a diesel... Then what?

What about buying fuel in Canada for say a long haul road trip? We had a boat come in to the shop the other day with different colored fuel than what's normally in a tank (Red), do they dye fuel red and green/yellow there?

I saw blue gasoline the other day...

Many questions as I've never heard of this, not surprised, but still haven't heard of this

[Pnwrider]

As far as the fuel goes the red and green are exactly the same, you just don't pay taxes on the red.

If they're "exactly the same" than how will someone know if you're running off road diesel by dipping your tank???

[X-Force]

As far as the fuel goes the red and green are exactly the same, you just don't pay taxes on the red.

If they're "exactly the same" than how will someone know if you're running off road diesel by dipping your tank???

because the colors are different the quality of fuel is the same.