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Quote from: BULLBLASTER on December 23, 2016, 07:59:14 AMQuote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 07:55:21 AMQuote from: jay.sharkbait on December 23, 2016, 07:29:27 AMQuote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 06:19:52 AMIt is always a good idea to ask a shops policy prior to doing a transfer. The problem is there is a lot of unclarity between Washington state law and federal law. Under federal law once an ffl logs a firearm into their books it can not be removed without a corresponding 4473. Every 4473 needs to be called. So by federal law the shop is correct. As for everyone getting delayed, that is not true. I have bought 4 guns this month and never been delayed. I was told from an FFL I know well and respect that if someone brings in a gun for transfer and both the buyer and seller are denied, not delayed, that the only option is for the shop to consign the gun for the original owner. The reason is once a gun goes on an FFL books the shop is legally responsible for it. In oder for it to change hands an individual must pass a background check or it must be transfered to another ffl. Thank your Washington state law makers for their poorly written law. Sent from my SCH-I605 using TapatalkYour guy is wrong. The firearm can be logged back out to the owner without a 4473.I started digging into this .... Apparently the ATF issued a letter saying that for private party transfers guns don't need to be logged into an FFL's books until after the entire transaction is complete. The only way a FFL can log a gun off their books without a 4473 is to transfer it to another FFL or if the gun was stolen. There is special exemption for gun smiths. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalkdo you know where I can obtain a copy of this letter?https://www.atf.gov/file/4961/downloadSent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 07:55:21 AMQuote from: jay.sharkbait on December 23, 2016, 07:29:27 AMQuote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 06:19:52 AMIt is always a good idea to ask a shops policy prior to doing a transfer. The problem is there is a lot of unclarity between Washington state law and federal law. Under federal law once an ffl logs a firearm into their books it can not be removed without a corresponding 4473. Every 4473 needs to be called. So by federal law the shop is correct. As for everyone getting delayed, that is not true. I have bought 4 guns this month and never been delayed. I was told from an FFL I know well and respect that if someone brings in a gun for transfer and both the buyer and seller are denied, not delayed, that the only option is for the shop to consign the gun for the original owner. The reason is once a gun goes on an FFL books the shop is legally responsible for it. In oder for it to change hands an individual must pass a background check or it must be transfered to another ffl. Thank your Washington state law makers for their poorly written law. Sent from my SCH-I605 using TapatalkYour guy is wrong. The firearm can be logged back out to the owner without a 4473.I started digging into this .... Apparently the ATF issued a letter saying that for private party transfers guns don't need to be logged into an FFL's books until after the entire transaction is complete. The only way a FFL can log a gun off their books without a 4473 is to transfer it to another FFL or if the gun was stolen. There is special exemption for gun smiths. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalkdo you know where I can obtain a copy of this letter?
Quote from: jay.sharkbait on December 23, 2016, 07:29:27 AMQuote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 06:19:52 AMIt is always a good idea to ask a shops policy prior to doing a transfer. The problem is there is a lot of unclarity between Washington state law and federal law. Under federal law once an ffl logs a firearm into their books it can not be removed without a corresponding 4473. Every 4473 needs to be called. So by federal law the shop is correct. As for everyone getting delayed, that is not true. I have bought 4 guns this month and never been delayed. I was told from an FFL I know well and respect that if someone brings in a gun for transfer and both the buyer and seller are denied, not delayed, that the only option is for the shop to consign the gun for the original owner. The reason is once a gun goes on an FFL books the shop is legally responsible for it. In oder for it to change hands an individual must pass a background check or it must be transfered to another ffl. Thank your Washington state law makers for their poorly written law. Sent from my SCH-I605 using TapatalkYour guy is wrong. The firearm can be logged back out to the owner without a 4473.I started digging into this .... Apparently the ATF issued a letter saying that for private party transfers guns don't need to be logged into an FFL's books until after the entire transaction is complete. The only way a FFL can log a gun off their books without a 4473 is to transfer it to another FFL or if the gun was stolen. There is special exemption for gun smiths. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Fungunnin on December 23, 2016, 06:19:52 AMIt is always a good idea to ask a shops policy prior to doing a transfer. The problem is there is a lot of unclarity between Washington state law and federal law. Under federal law once an ffl logs a firearm into their books it can not be removed without a corresponding 4473. Every 4473 needs to be called. So by federal law the shop is correct. As for everyone getting delayed, that is not true. I have bought 4 guns this month and never been delayed. I was told from an FFL I know well and respect that if someone brings in a gun for transfer and both the buyer and seller are denied, not delayed, that the only option is for the shop to consign the gun for the original owner. The reason is once a gun goes on an FFL books the shop is legally responsible for it. In oder for it to change hands an individual must pass a background check or it must be transfered to another ffl. Thank your Washington state law makers for their poorly written law. Sent from my SCH-I605 using TapatalkYour guy is wrong. The firearm can be logged back out to the owner without a 4473.
It is always a good idea to ask a shops policy prior to doing a transfer. The problem is there is a lot of unclarity between Washington state law and federal law. Under federal law once an ffl logs a firearm into their books it can not be removed without a corresponding 4473. Every 4473 needs to be called. So by federal law the shop is correct. As for everyone getting delayed, that is not true. I have bought 4 guns this month and never been delayed. I was told from an FFL I know well and respect that if someone brings in a gun for transfer and both the buyer and seller are denied, not delayed, that the only option is for the shop to consign the gun for the original owner. The reason is once a gun goes on an FFL books the shop is legally responsible for it. In oder for it to change hands an individual must pass a background check or it must be transfered to another ffl. Thank your Washington state law makers for their poorly written law. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
