The EPA caused this - And no one will be held accountable

[JDHasty]

Mark my words, no one will be held accountable. 


http://www.seattlepi.com/news/politics/article/EPA-540-tons-of-metals-entered-river-in-Colo-10840554.php

[pianoman9701]

You know this happened a year and a half ago, right?

[JDHasty]

You know this happened a year and a half ago, right?

You know this happened the EPA caused this a year and a half ago, right?

[pianoman9701]

You know this happened a year and a half ago, right?

You know this happened the EPA caused this a year and a half ago, right?

I'm no friend of the EPA, but this spill was caused by a contractor for the EPA. Do you have any information about who the contractor is and what if any penalty they've paid? That would be more pertinent information. As it is, you're posting information we've already seen posted on this site and others. New information would be beneficial. Rehashing old information is not.

[jay.sharkbait]

Since we are ahem DREDGING up old drama.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/state-to-cast-wide-net-for-asarco-smelter-pollution/

[JDHasty]

You know this happened a year and a half ago, right?

You know this happened the EPA caused this a year and a half ago, right?

I'm no friend of the EPA, but this spill was caused by a contractor for the EPA. Do you have any information about who the contractor is and what if any penalty they've paid? That would be more pertinent information. As it is, you're posting information we've already seen posted on this site and others. New information would be beneficial. Rehashing old information is not.

Here, let me help ya' out:  Matthew Daly, Associated Press Updated 4:35 pm, Friday, January 6, 2017

The EPA said its research supports earlier statements that water quality in the affected river system has returned to pre-spill levels.

Another Obama Agency investigating itself and coming to the conclusion:  There is nothing to see here, move along. 

[Special T]

Pman I'm pretty sure the contractor didn't want to tear out the damn and told the epa it was a bad idea.

[JDHasty]

Pman I'm pretty sure the contractor didn't want to tear out the damn and told the epa it was a bad idea.

I do believe that that has been documented. 

[j_h_nimrod]

My mother lives in the area and she actually called me when it happened last year. Hopefully the EPA gets their butt sued, mainly because they need to eat a little crow. They always come off as so high and mighty and are pretty conceited in general. They instigated this and should be held accountable. In reality this was a pretty insignificant occurance compared to what happens there every spring, but the point of the matter is that if this were someone else the EPA would rake them over the coals and gloat the whole time.

[pianoman9701]

You know this happened a year and a half ago, right?

You know this happened the EPA caused this a year and a half ago, right?

I'm no friend of the EPA, but this spill was caused by a contractor for the EPA. Do you have any information about who the contractor is and what if any penalty they've paid? That would be more pertinent information. As it is, you're posting information we've already seen posted on this site and others. New information would be beneficial. Rehashing old information is not.

Here, let me help ya' out:  Matthew Daly, Associated Press Updated 4:35 pm, Friday, January 6, 2017

The EPA said its research supports earlier statements that water quality in the affected river system has returned to pre-spill levels.

Another Obama Agency investigating itself and coming to the conclusion:  There is nothing to see here, move along.

 I didn't say there's nothing to see here and you just like to get all ticked off...about everything. You must be angry all the time. I can't imagine wanting to live like that. 

I don't believe there's any new news here. Am I wrong about that?

[pianoman9701]

Pman I'm pretty sure the contractor didn't want to tear out the damn and told the epa it was a bad idea.

Is that new news or is that old news. I'm just trying to figure out if this post has anything new to offer. 

[Special T]

Pman I'm pretty sure the contractor didn't want to tear out the damn and told the epa it was a bad idea.

Is that new news or is that old news. I'm just trying to figure out if this post has anything new to offer. 

Old news

[JDHasty]

Outraged Westerners look to Trump after Obama’s EPA refuses to pay claims from Gold King Mine spill

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/19/obamas-epa-refuses-pay-claims-gold-king-mine-spill/

[Special T]

I hope they prosecute the number nut responsible, and gut the department. The EPA was  supposed to be the people's watchdog but instead are incompetent.

[Buzz2401]

So one guy makes a mistake and then it is automatically the EPA's fault.  That's like blaming Colt for someone using their rifle to shoot up a mall.

[JDHasty]

So one guy makes a mistake and then it is automatically the EPA's fault.  That's like blaming Colt for someone using their rifle to shoot up a mall.

Colt was not overseeing the activity, this incompetent boob was directly in charge.  Big difference. 

[Buzz2401]

So the EPA told him to do this.  Not what I read.  I read it as a guy who made a mistake and the EPA paid over $4 million to rectify situation.  Should guy lose his job maybe but we are all only human and mistakes are made.  It doesn't sound like it was made in malice so clean it up and move on.

[j_h_nimrod]

My recollection is that this was a direct result of EPA direction and coercion when the contractor said it was a bad idea. There was also (conspiracy) theory that this was on purpose by EPA, for what reason I don't know.

[Special T]

The epa guy did this while the boss was on vacation and was under instruction not to breach the mine. Additionally the contractor said it was a bad idea.

[JDHasty]

The epa guy did this while the boss was on vacation and was under instruction not to breach the mine. Additionally the contractor said it was a bad idea.

Put the Govt official in the place of my cousin's neighbor who shot a grizzly bear under his front porch.  He lost his butt in legal fees and had fines on top.   I have no sympathy, in fact I have a preferential option for the highly trained, and paid govt official facing financial and personal ruin. 

[pianoman9701]

The epa guy did this while the boss was on vacation and was under instruction not to breach the mine. Additionally the contractor said it was a bad idea.

Put the Govt official in the place of my cousin's neighbor who shot a grizzly bear under his front porch.  He lost his butt in legal fees and had fines on top.   I have no sympathy, in fact I have a preferential option for the highly trained, and paid govt official facing financial and personal ruin.

ST was basically agreeing with you. Don't get so worked up that you don't read responses for understanding. I sometimes make the same mistake when I'm passionate about a subject and have to make a concerted effort to stop and comprehend. I would suggest to you that there are far more people on this website who agree with your stance on most issues than those who don't. JD, I don't know you from Adam. But I will tell you that sometimes, it's hard to see your message through the histrionics and rhetoric.