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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 08:52:21 AM »
The lengths that some guys will go to in order to get an advantage, crazy.  I'll be interested in the outcome and what is found out on this.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 08:53:44 AM »
Same day isn't 24 hours...and a "regularly scheduled commercial flight" is open to interpretation. As if the helicopter company regularly flies into that landing zone each year for the high hunt it would be considered a "regularly scheduled flight"...either way, "same day" isn't 24 hours. If a person flew in and landed at 2 PM on Friday, Sept. 15th, they would be legal to hunt at legal shooting light on Sat. Sept. 16th...

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 08:54:45 AM »
Absolutely, they can hunt the next day, just not the day they fly in.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 08:56:33 AM »
As for the regularly scheduled commercial flight - I'm not sure a helicopter into GPW fits the bill, but as you've indicated, it's up for interpretation.  :tup:
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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 12:37:46 PM »
As for the regularly scheduled commercial flight - I'm not sure a helicopter into GPW fits the bill, but as you've indicated, it's up for interpretation.  :tup:

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 12:41:03 PM »
Id be more interested in getting a flight out of some of the hell holes I hike into and kill a deer.   to heck with the flight in, my pack is 100 lbs lighter going in. :chuckle: :dunno:

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 12:42:34 PM »
Id be more interested in getting a flight out of some of the hell holes I hike into and kill a deer.   to heck with the flight in, my pack is 100 lbs lighter going in. :chuckle: :dunno:

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 02:08:14 PM »
As for the regularly scheduled commercial flight - I'm not sure a helicopter into GPW fits the bill, but as you've indicated, it's up for interpretation.  :tup:

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If it was to a designated airstrip, such as the airstrips in the Frank Church, it would probably pass muster as a scheduled commercial flight.  I doubt landing in the bush would qualify.
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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 02:10:51 PM »
I'd think Alaska "interpretation" would apply here.

But leave it to WACky Washington to leave an interpretation issue

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 02:15:21 PM »
I wanted to take a helicopter in but they told me I'd need to rent a SkyCrane. I have lost 30 lbs since.
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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2017, 03:01:12 PM »
Id be more interested in getting a flight out of some of the hell holes I hike into and kill a deer.   to heck with the flight in, my pack is 100 lbs lighter going in. :chuckle: :dunno:

That would be nice. But a helicopter company cannot fly wild game out of the USFS land, unless it's a commercial airstrip. Also from my understanding of the wilderness land act helicopters cannot fly into wilderness areas. The only exception I've heard of is a the helicopter company gets a waiver/amendment from the USFS for fire fighting, personal injury, or sometimes construction.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2017, 03:11:54 PM »
Helo sightings were caused by a big name outdoor sports channel star ferrying in his camp, gear and film crew for a hunting show.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2017, 08:38:33 AM »
R2Rcouleee...not sure where you got your info...but aircraft (including helicopters) fly into the USFS all the time, especially in Alaska, all they need is a special use permit. I know of a fishing guide on Lake Chelan that has a FS Special Use Permit to pick up and drop off people (and wild game when taken by a hunter). The permit is for transportation only so no guiding, but a helicopter would need the same special use permit. Again, Cascade Helicopters used to do this all the time. We hired them back in the early 2000's to help haul gear into Crow Cabin and put a new metal roof on it...and that was in the backcountry.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2017, 09:03:14 AM »
Id be more interested in getting a flight out of some of the hell holes I hike into and kill a deer.   to heck with the flight in, my pack is 100 lbs lighter going in. :chuckle: :dunno:

That would be nice. But a helicopter company cannot fly wild game out of the USFS land, unless it's a commercial airstrip. Also from my understanding of the wilderness land act helicopters cannot fly into wilderness areas. The only exception I've heard of is a the helicopter company gets a waiver/amendment from the USFS for fire fighting, personal injury, or sometimes construction.

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Re: Helicopter flying in clients for high hunt gpw
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2017, 11:18:43 AM »
Id be more interested in getting a flight out of some of the hell holes I hike into and kill a deer.   to heck with the flight in, my pack is 100 lbs lighter going in. :chuckle: :dunno:

That would be nice. But a helicopter company cannot fly wild game out of the USFS land, unless it's a commercial airstrip. Also from my understanding of the wilderness land act helicopters cannot fly into wilderness areas. The only exception I've heard of is a the helicopter company gets a waiver/amendment from the USFS for fire fighting, personal injury, or sometimes construction.

https://heli-ski.com/

 :dunno:

They are limited by their use permits to landing only at specific sites during a specific time frame.  They can't operate willy-nilly.

 


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