More blood and guts

[PlateauNDN]

Are you? Because i dont hear you being vocal about it. All i hear you cry about is tribal issues.

[PlateauNDN]

So getting up in arms over tribal corporations getting "tax breaks" which probably gets into a million maybe but corporations getting multi-millions and counting and negatively affecting the local economy amd citizens is okay?

We might save a little with our tax breaks but its pennies when compared to big corporations. 

But its okay, keep boycotting amd hating i think we'll be fine without a dozen people not coming thru our doors or utilizing our funds donated annually.

Oh wait, second thought. Why dont some of you look and see if your local municipality or county government is getting funds from a local tribe to assist with services amd then complain.

[PlateauNDN]

To still think we dont pay taxes sbows that some are either not believing or caring to try and verify whats said or are just being ignorant. Oh well, damn the big bad tribes for taking away from corporations that would do worse.

Looking at just last year, our pact had us distribute nearly half a million in community grants and you would not believe who the person at the casino is the one doing it.

Last year as well, not pact required we donated nearly a million to area non-profits/charities.

But hey, damn those indians.......

[bobcat]

The tribe over here where I live has bought up lots of property off their reservation and then they open businesses and refuse to pay property taxes. Even though they, and their customers, use all the things that those taxes pay for, such as roads, police, fire department, schools, etc.

[PlateauNDN]

So now that we're becoming economically sustainable amd buying back land that was once ours its a problem? Have you checked to see if the tribe has a paid contract to access those services or are you just saying theyre using them without paying because you havent looked?

I know a tribe near you does pay the county for services as well as a few other westside tribes. But what do i know, its not like ive ever been in those types of meetings.

I know, it sucks that the tribes are buying up land. Why cant they just stay on the reservations that the feds put them on. Theyre just being greedy, they dont need all that land, we just just take it from them amd exterminate them or move them to crappy unusable land!

Oh, does it not sound the same when we say it versus the federal government? Im sorry, my bad.

[Tbar]

The tribe over here where I live has bought up lots of property off their reservation and then they open businesses and refuse to pay property taxes. Even though they, and their customers, use all the things that those taxes pay for, such as roads, police, fire department, schools, etc.

I would lay money against your claim that they do not contribute.  Appendix X is voluntary taxation.

[PlateauNDN]

I know what whats going to be said before its said, "get over it, thats 200 years ago, times have changed". But have they? Less than a century ago we werent considered citizens, 2nd class and now we're still facing the same type of hate and discrimination that was supposedly ended decades ago.

The states and feds are still trying to do away with us and implement manifest destiny but in different forms and tactics.

ASSIMILATE! Why? Why should i assimilate? Why should i forget where i come from? Where my ancestors are from? Thats my identity amd my childrens identity.

Where the feds went wrong is by not exterminating us, instead they negotiated treaties and lost. So now we're the bad guys by following our treaties and taking full advantage of it.

We laid down our arms once before and look what that got us. There for sure isnt going to be a second time.

[dreamingbig]

The Yakima elk herds are over capacity per wdfw. Now, a lawmaker reads and hears that they're not going to be concerned.

So tell me, what's it going to take to change that?

Well according to the proposed reduction in anterless harvest to zero for Archery hunters the Yakima herd MUST no longer be over objective.  Or they have to save the rest for the jerky guy and wolves?

Can the Native Americans do us all a favor and shoot every wolf that makes its weigh into the central and southern cascades?  You can’t get in trouble.  Please and thank you. 😁


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[PlateauNDN]

Rights are rights, whether its a right to free speech, assembly, bear arms etc. Im not giving up my rights just as any sane non-tribal member would give up theirs.

[Tbar]

The Yakima elk herds are over capacity per wdfw. Now, a lawmaker reads and hears that they're not going to be concerned.

So tell me, what's it going to take to change that?

Well according to the proposed reduction in anterless harvest to zero for Archery hunters the Yakima herd MUST no longer be over objective.  Or they have to save the rest for the jerky guy and wolves?

Can the Native Americans do us all a favor and shoot every wolf that makes its weigh into the central and southern cascades?  You can’t get in trouble.  Please and thank you. 😁


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Was that reduction in accordance with herd objectives? Or was it human management not wildlife management? Was it at the request of the district bio or the rpm? Or even a politician speaking on behalf of influential stakeholders?

[dreamingbig]

I didn’t ask you too and completely agree that any identified group would abuse an unlimited harvest approach.

BUT can you please hunt and shoot some wolves?  Thank you. 🙏


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[bobcat]

Rights are rights, whether its a right to free speech, assembly, bear arms etc. Im not giving up my rights just as any sane non-tribal member would give up theirs.

Nobody’s asking you to give up your rights. Could the tribe not put a limit on how many deer and elk each member kills without taking away your rights? You’d still get to hunt as your right guaranteed by your treaty. Why does one person need to kill dozens or even hundreds of deer and elk each year? Why? Only reason would be it’s his business, it’s what he does for a living. And hey, I can’t say I blame the guy. Or even the tribe. I blame MY government for allowing it to happen. Just like they allow tribes with casinos to not pay taxes, and tribal members to not pay gas tax, and not pay property taxes. If they’re not going to pay like everyone else does, then our government should take away all the things those taxes support. Education, roads, emergency services, etc. Again, I don’t have anything against you or any tribal member. The blame lies totally with our government.

[PlateauNDN]

Nobody ever asks. Did the fed govt ask? Nope. Are they trying to ask now? Nope. Is the state asking? Nope. Are the going to ask? Nope. You may not individually, but many others on Hw are demanding it. Assimilate, abolish, forget and move on.

You dont like being singled out just as much as i dont. It might not be you saying it but its affecting you. Just like when hw members lump all of us together and belittle and use derogatory worda/comments about us all.

[Skyvalhunter]

I would like to know what the Native Americans think about the wolf issue. Are they ok with the wiping out of the game animal populations by the wolves. If not why hasn't their been a public stand by them made?

[dscubame]

Perhaps the natives support the wolves as the non natives do.  It was the non natives that reintroduced them and continue to do so.  "We" non natives support the wolf and it's true as evidence by our actions reintroducing them.  "Our" legislatures represent us and "we" are for the wolf by default.