Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[shallowforks]

Im sure all non native hunters would love equality but thats not the law.

this is one of the best examples of non white privalge taunting.  Well done.

…….But im white. No tribe, No privilege, No taunting

[shallowforks]

more good talking points being made, sounds like the majority of non tribal members don't want to take away treaties at all or take away tribal rights. They see abuse and they want the abusers held accountable so that the abuse can subside. WDFW has some strong penalties when it comes to blatant abuse. maybe an equal standard could be reached for tribes.

[Jpmiller]

How come we are assuming the auction and raffle tags will be used in the swakane unit? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, is this the premier sheep unit available? The tag allows them to go elsewhere as well as I understand it.

[Rainier10]

How come we are assuming the auction and raffle tags will be used in the swakane unit? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, is this the premier sheep unit available? The tag allows them to go elsewhere as well as I understand it.

First let me say that I am not a sheep guy but hope to be some day. 

I muddied the waters earlier saying that there was a raffle winner that could hunt the Swakane unit, that is not true.  Swakane is not open to the raffle winner.

I think the reason it is assumed that the auction tag holder will be hunting in there is that Swakane has California big horn sheep and those are tougher to get then the rocky mountain sheep that are in the other units.  Just my  coming from a guy that isn't really a sheep guy....yet.

[grundy53]

How come we are assuming the auction and raffle tags will be used in the swakane unit? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, is this the premier sheep unit available? The tag allows them to go elsewhere as well as I understand it.

It's where the world record California bighorn was killed.

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[PlateauNDN]

Weak, non-comparison and unrelated is at best the same thing. If we're going to discuss taking away rights then let's start a dialog of what right you're going to allow to be stripped away.

I know the talking points of checks and balances, why this and that but sitting there and telling me or any other tribal member we dont deserve nor need a right that guaranteed by our "Constitution" is exactly the same and if you cant swallow that pill then choke on it.

Yes, I agree that the abuses are a big issue as I've stated time and time again, theres no argument there with me on that issue and it's one that will balance itself out as proven with history by checks and balances. Something will come along and check that issue.

Does it suck that eventually will come at a price, a cost and take  awhile,  hell yes.

As I say with my 2A, you can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands because that's exactly what it's going to take.

[huntnphool]

Bringing the 2nd Amendment into this as a comparison is BS and totally unrelated. The 2nd Amendment was put in place as a check and balance to keep the government from getting out of control

 You would think someone of his ancestry would understand this, "Wounded Knee" ring a bell?

[baker5150]

Weak, non-comparison and unrelated is at best the same thing. If we're going to discuss taking away rights then let's start a dialog of what right you're going to allow to be stripped away.

I know the talking points of checks and balances, why this and that but sitting there and telling me or any other tribal member we dont deserve nor need a right that guaranteed by our "Constitution" is exactly the same and if you cant swallow that pill then choke on it.

Yes, I agree that the abuses are a big issue as I've stated time and time again, theres no argument there with me on that issue and it's one that will balance itself out as proven with history by checks and balances. Something will come along and check that issue.

Does it suck that eventually will come at a price, a cost and take  awhile,  hell yes.

As I say with my 2A, you can have it when you pry it from my cold dead hands because that's exactly what it's going to take.

Does the Yakima Tribe have an adopted constitution? 

[ctwiggs1]

@PlateauNDN

Seriously man, you need to work on your priorities.

I requested pics on page 1, why are we still talking about anything else??  PICS!! 

[shallowforks]

I think it unwise and in poor taste to nonchalantly and sarcastically reference something such as wounded knee in that way. I don't understand why some are calling BS on Plat's comparison to the way he reacts toward talks of stripping his constitutional/treaty rights to the way people react toward talks of stripping constitutional 2A rights. I think I get what hes saying and it seems logical. cold dead hands/cold dead hands. I don't think hes comparing the writing of the laws themselves as much as how strongly we all feel about those laws, is that right Plat? In that regard then I see your point.

[shallowforks]

@PlateauNDN

Seriously man, you need to work on your priorities.

I requested pics on page 1, why are we still talking about anything else??  PICS!! 

 

[B4noon]

How come we are assuming the auction and raffle tags will be used in the swakane unit? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, is this the premier sheep unit available? The tag allows them to go elsewhere as well as I understand it.

First let me say that I am not a sheep guy but hope to be some day. 

I muddied the waters earlier saying that there was a raffle winner that could hunt the Swakane unit, that is not true.  Swakane is not open to the raffle winner.

I think the reason it is assumed that the auction tag holder will be hunting in there is that Swakane has California big horn sheep and those are tougher to get then the rocky mountain sheep that are in the other units.  Just my  coming from a guy that isn't really a sheep guy....yet.

The majority of units are California subspecies the swakane just tends to create high quality ones

[huntnphool]

I think it unwise and in poor taste to nonchalantly and sarcastically reference something such as wounded knee in that way. I don't understand why some are calling BS on Plat's comparison to the way he reacts toward talks of stripping his constitutional/treaty rights to the way people react toward talks of stripping constitutional 2A rights. I think I get what hes saying and it seems logical. cold dead hands/cold dead hands. I don't think hes comparing the writing of the laws themselves as much as how strongly we all feel about those laws, is that right Plat? In that regard then I see your point.

Poor taste to reference a lesson we all should learn from?

[shallowforks]

Poor taste to reference a lesson we all should learn from?

I probably shouldnt have singled you out, as there have been lots of remarks made by both sides that are unnecessary and dont contribute to the substance of this thread. This topic is extremely sensitive and full of landmines for both sides  but to me is an absolutely worthwhile and relevant topic for us all to be discussing and weighing in on. Theres been a lot of good insight thus far and we can keep the conversation going as long as we all remain civil and respectful to eachother. So my apologies for singling you out especially if no sarcasm was meant on your behalf.

[X-Force]

Watching this thread is killing me.

only 1 group in this thread has actual hunting and fishing rights... the Yakama Nation.

If you don't like it tough... hunters and fisherman have to build a bridge with natives because in the end, if we don't, non natives wont have hunting or fishing because of a lack of popular support and a shrinking demographic, meanwhile a native peoples will still be enjoying the outdoors because they have their rights in writing.

So complain about a different user group getting permits just realize native peoples will have permits forever and your grandkids or great grandkids wont have any prospective of what you are arguing about today because in your lifetime you worried about what someone else has instead of preserving our future.