Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[Whitenuckles]

I'm all for natives to hunt. They should keep their traditions and practice their God given rights as they please.They have been hunting here before "white man" came here.

But.... and here it comes... they should do it without "white man" influence. Do it as they did in the old days!
No guns
No trucks
No horses
No modern bows
No hunting boots
No steel blades
No modern clothing
No modern tents
No anything "white man" has introduced

Then and only then, I think we would agree they are doing it for traditional rights. Because as of now, nothing they are doing is traditional! If the natives want there ancestral rights, they should do it in the way their ancestors did it. Before they got the "white man" advantages!!! Just my 

Like I said. I'm all for their rights! But i feel they need to do it as their ancestors did.

[Alchase]

Some could say our "privilege to hunt" heck go one further our "right to bear arms" is an ancestral right as well. 

[Time Immemorial 1855]

I'm all for natives to hunt. They should keep their traditions and practice their God given rights as they please.They have been hunting here before "white man" came here.

But.... and here it comes... they should do it without "white man" influence. Do it as they did in the old days!
No guns
No trucks
No horses
No modern bows
No hunting boots
No steel blades
No modern clothing
No modern tents
No anything "white man" has introduced

Then and only then, I think we would agree they are doing it for traditional rights. Because as of now, nothing they are doing is traditional! If the natives want there ancestral rights, they should do it in the way their ancestors did it. Before they got the "white man" advantages!!! Just my 

Like I said. I'm all for their rights! But i feel they need to do it as their ancestors did.

ft.

I'm all for natives to hunt. They should keep their traditions and practice their God given rights as they please.They have been hunting here before "white man" came here.

But.... and here it comes... they should do it without "white man" influence. Do it as they did in the old days!
No guns
No trucks
No horses
No modern bows
No hunting boots
No steel blades
No modern clothing
No modern tents
No anything "white man" has introduced

Then and only then, I think we would agree they are doing it for traditional rights. Because as of now, nothing they are doing is traditional! If the natives want there ancestral rights, they should do it in the way their ancestors did it. Before they got the "white man" advantages!!! Just my 

Like I said. I'm all for their rights! But i feel they need to do it as their ancestors did.

Lol you're describing a caveman

[180-GRAIN]

Maybe this has been asked before but I will ask again. Can tribal members apply for the general public sheep tags as well as the tribal tags?

[Time Immemorial 1855]

Watching this thread is killing me.

only 1 group in this thread has actual hunting and fishing rights... the Yakama Nation.

If you don't like it tough... hunters and fisherman have to build a bridge with natives because in the end, if we don't, non natives wont have hunting or fishing because of a lack of popular support and a shrinking demographic, meanwhile a native peoples will still be enjoying the outdoors because they have their rights in writing.

So complain about a different user group getting permits just realize native peoples will have permits forever and your grandkids or great grandkids wont have any prospective of what you are arguing about today because in your lifetime you worried about what someone else has instead of preserving our future.

Exactly, you guys refer to yourselves as SPORTSMEN, as us we are hunter and gatherers, you all take all the hate out on a few that come here to defend ourselves, when I first joined the bashing was terrible, you want to help with the ones over harvesting take pictures of them, call Tribal wardens, help us help you, just remember we define ourselves as HUNTERS AN GATHERERS NOT SPORTSMEN, we dont do it for sport, we do it to PROVIDE

[Time Immemorial 1855]

Maybe this has been asked before but I will ask again. Can tribal members apply for the general public sheep tags as well as the tribal tags?

Yes we can, if we go purchase tags build our points and apply for them like you guys do, maybe we should to help the odds out....

[Whitefoot]

I'm all for not having sportsmen not hunt on our ceded land.   I promote it all the time. 

[Time Immemorial 1855]

I'm all for not having sportsmen not hunt on our ceded land.   I promote it all the time.

WORRRD

[grundy53]

I'm a hunter. Not a sportsman.

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[trophyhunt]

Watching this thread is killing me.

only 1 group in this thread has actual hunting and fishing rights... the Yakama Nation.

If you don't like it tough... hunters and fisherman have to build a bridge with natives because in the end, if we don't, non natives wont have hunting or fishing because of a lack of popular support and a shrinking demographic, meanwhile a native peoples will still be enjoying the outdoors because they have their rights in writing.

So complain about a different user group getting permits just realize native peoples will have permits forever and your grandkids or great grandkids wont have any prospective of what you are arguing about today because in your lifetime you worried about what someone else has instead of preserving our future.

Exactly, you guys refer to yourselves as SPORTSMEN, as us we are hunter and gatherers, you all take all the hate out on a few that come here to defend ourselves, when I first joined the bashing was terrible, you want to help with the ones over harvesting take pictures of them, call Tribal wardens, help us help you, just remember we define ourselves as HUNTERS AN GATHERERS NOT SPORTSMEN, we dont do it for sport, we do it to PROVIDE

Time, all the pictures in the world won’t make a difference on over harvest, there isn’t an over harvest for the yakama’s.  Your elders know about a tribal member who sells elk jerky and they don’t care that it’s against your laws.  Really there is nothing we can do about a guy killing 24+ bulls a year because the tribe lets him, all we can do is get frustrated when our permits go down and the management isn’t there.  This will never change, same old crap, pass me the bottle!

[Whitenuckles]

I'm all for natives to hunt. They should keep their traditions and practice their God given rights as they please.They have been hunting here before "white man" came here.

But.... and here it comes... they should do it without "white man" influence. Do it as they did in the old days!
No guns
No trucks
No horses
No modern bows
No hunting boots
No steel blades
No modern clothing
No modern tents
No anything "white man" has introduced

Then and only then, I think we would agree they are doing it for traditional rights. Because as of now, nothing they are doing is traditional! If the natives want there ancestral rights, they should do it in the way their ancestors did it. Before they got the "white man" advantages!!! Just my 

Like I said. I'm all for their rights! But i feel they need to do it as their ancestors did.

ft.

I'm all for natives to hunt. They should keep their traditions and practice their God given rights as they please.They have been hunting here before "white man" came here.

But.... and here it comes... they should do it without "white man" influence. Do it as they did in the old days!
No guns
No trucks
No horses
No modern bows
No hunting boots
No steel blades
No modern clothing
No modern tents
No anything "white man" has introduced

Then and only then, I think we would agree they are doing it for traditional rights. Because as of now, nothing they are doing is traditional! If the natives want there ancestral rights, they should do it in the way their ancestors did it. Before they got the "white man" advantages!!! Just my 

Like I said. I'm all for their rights! But i feel they need to do it as their ancestors did.

Lol you're describing a caveman

Lol..... No! I'm describing the Native American before "white man". Dont get me wrong, I'm not hating on natives. I, myself, am a first generation American.
But from my eyes, what the natives do outside their reservation, is not fair with the rest. From what I understand,  you have ancestral rights to land, fish and game. But you use modern technology to harvest you bounty, not what your ancestors did. You can't hate the "white man", but then turn around and use all his gifts! That's not right. 
As I said before and listed above. Those things were all introduced to the Americas by European influence. I am all for your rights!!!! I hope natives continue their heritage forever!!! But I think natives should continue "their heritage" absent of others influences. You can't say you want your past, then turn around and use the future's technology 

[meatwhack]

The part that always boggles my mind is how some tribes are able to manage excellent herds within their reservation which creates much better hunting opportunity and no need to leave the reservation while others have slaughtered everything within the reservation boundaries so they are then required to hunt areas that the state has managed for herd health.

[Time Immemorial 1855]

Prove my ancestors didnt use modern rifles, prove it lol

[Time Immemorial 1855]

The part that always boggles my mind is how some tribes are able to manage excellent herds within their reservation which creates much better hunting opportunity and no need to leave the reservation while others have slaughtered everything within the reservation boundaries so they are then required to hunt areas that the state has managed for herd health.

Holy I did not know the rez was hunted to extinction? New one to me lol, our people have hunted within the entire ceded area and more, its documented by your people, the land was ceded but my ancestors made sure we retained the rights to hunt and gather within them ceded land, want us to stop hunting them areas, give the land back, simple as that lol come on think about it......

[bobcat]

Exactly, you guys refer to yourselves as SPORTSMEN, as us we are hunter and gatherers, you all take all the hate out on a few that come here to defend ourselves, when I first joined the bashing was terrible, you want to help with the ones over harvesting take pictures of them, call Tribal wardens, help us help you, just remember we define ourselves as HUNTERS AN GATHERERS NOT SPORTSMEN, we dont do it for sport, we do it to PROVIDE

First, none of us "hate" any of your people. We simply don't like the fact that you guys are allowed to hunt with no limits, and no seasons. It's as if it's an unlimited resource, the way your laws are set up. Even the laws you do have, are not enforced.

Certain people kill many trophy bull elk every year, just for the heads. Then they sell the heads. It's a business. Then there are those in the business of selling meat. At least one guy has a jerky business. He advertises on Craigslist. These things are against Yakama tribal law, I believe, yet members of the Yakama tribe do these things openly and nobody cares.

I'm sure this is the reason the deer around the Yakima area are on the verge of being entirely wiped out. Look at the success rates for those GMU's. They run around 1% to 5%. Pathetic. The state blames the lack of deer on hair loss disease. But I think it's pretty obvious what the real reason is.