300rum 220 eld-x performance on elk

[Mtnwalker]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence!

 

Has Berger changed their recipe since 2014ish? Hate to start beating this ol' horse again but I had a couple bad experiences with them prior to then, one muley at 300 and one elk at 75, both had major penciling on all non-bone shots. I haven't paid much attention to them since. In all fairness I was shooting them in 7mm, not 30 cal. although my hunting partner lost a great 7x7 rosie in 2015 with 4 good shots out of a 30-378 at under 100 and never found the bull. Everything i've shot with them beyond 500 has died real good.

[jasnt]

Makes no sense that they wouldn’t open at close range and do at long range
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?   

[Jonathan_S]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

[BULLBLASTER]

I can’t really speak to any of them except the 215 hybrid targets. I do find it suspect how 4 good shots wouldn’t bring down an elk regardless of bullet choice tho.

[jasnt]

With a 30-378 I would think the static shock alone would bring it down even with fmj

[Jonathan_S]

215s are killer and are an overachiever on velocity too

[Wild Bill]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

[h20hunter]

Bill....I'll be taking my rbros 7 with 180's for moose next year.  Stoked.

[Mtnwalker]

Makes no sense that they wouldn’t open at close range and do at long range
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?

I thought the exact same thing. They were all orange box VLD's. I don't remember if he was running the 190's or the 210's when he shot that big bull. Would have thought the first 2 were clean misses by the lack of reaction but they weren't. Tiny specs of blood and the gun was dialed. Broadside prone shots laying on a skid road, bull was also in the road.  I shot a small 2pt bull at 75 yds and poked a tiny pencil hole thru the lungs with virtually no damage. I have pics of the exit somewhere, i'll see if i can dig em up. Got lucky on the followup and broke the spine at base of the neck on a dead run.  Also poked 2 pencil holes thru the mule deer at 300, 3rd one that hit rib did good and blew off his g4 with the 4th shot as he ran downhill.

[jasnt]

Strange

[Wild Bill]

Bill....I'll be taking my rbros 7 with 180's for moose next year.  Stoked.

lot of fun man.
WB

[Mtnwalker]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.

[Jonathan_S]

I had a 215 not open on a 70 yard shot from a 300 wsm. But it went through the lungs and the speed alone destroyed that animal in 60 yards

[Damnimissed]

Yeaahhh, I think I’ll just stick to 200gr AB for elk. I’ll probably play around with some Berger’s or eldx and use them on an Idaho muley if I can get them to shoot good.

[Wild Bill]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.

I am not doubting. Its just never happened to me, and I pray it doesn't!

WB