300rum 220 eld-x performance on elk

[Damnimissed]

I’ve always been an accubond/partition kind of guy and am thinking about going outside my comfort zone (for some reason) and trying these eld-x’s. What are your thoughts or experience with them on elk under 600yds? The bc looks great and they’re supposed to retain 50-60% but I’m worried about too much fragmentation if it hits heavy bone or if I end up with a close shot.

[Mtnwalker]

If you’re not shooting past 600 then What’s the need for an ELD type bullet? If you like accubond I’d stick with those

[Damnimissed]

If you’re not shooting past 600 then What’s the need for an ELD type bullet? If you like accubond I’d stick with those

I can’t leave well enough alone 
220gr at 2900+ sounds pretty good if the bullet will stay together at close ranges too.

[BULLBLASTER]

They won’t stay together. They are good bullets but won’t retain weight like an accubond.

[The scout]

  the only pass through’s i Have had with the eld-x is on shots over 500 other than that they fragment and cause massive internal damage.

[Wild Bill]

My best friend put 220 ELD-x's in two elk past 600. They held together and mushroomed perfectly. I was considering switching to the ELD-x for my 7.

I shoot bergers, and they hand grenade, but the elk don't move. So i put it center mass, and 4 ish inches behind the shoulder. Ive had minimal meat loss.

WB

[Karl Blanchard]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

[Damnimissed]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

[BULLBLASTER]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! 

[Damnimissed]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! 

I still haven’t bought into the whole fragmenting bullet thing but I know there are much more experienced guys in here than me who swear by them, so maybe I’ll dabble in it for deer or something.Also, my mag length is 3.75 and it’s a 10 twist 26” barrel.

[Taco280AI]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence!

 

[BULLBLASTER]

I shot them from my rum for a few years at 3.800 inches oal and 2970 FPS not speedy for a rum but it worked and I continue to use them in my 300 win. They really don’t cause much more damage than similar weight bullets. You shoot them in the ribs and get a golf ball size wound channel, but shoot them in the shoulder and get more damage like any bullet. I’ve killed animals between 70 and 700+ yards with them and can’t see any reason To change

Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?

[BULLBLASTER]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence!

 

Much better when you make it bold! 

[Damnimissed]

I shot them from my rum for a few years at 3.800 inches oal and 2970 FPS not speedy for a rum but it worked and I continue to use them in my 300 win. They really don’t cause much more damage than similar weight bullets. You shoot them in the ribs and get a golf ball size wound channel, but shoot them in the shoulder and get more damage like any bullet. I’ve killed animals between 70 and 700+ yards with them and can’t see any reason To change

Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?

I can’t get a longer mag, as far as I know. It’s a fierce fury and I’m almost positive it uses a Sako 85 mag.

[BULLBLASTER]

I shot them from my rum for a few years at 3.800 inches oal and 2970 FPS not speedy for a rum but it worked and I continue to use them in my 300 win. They really don’t cause much more damage than similar weight bullets. You shoot them in the ribs and get a golf ball size wound channel, but shoot them in the shoulder and get more damage like any bullet. I’ve killed animals between 70 and 700+ yards with them and can’t see any reason To change

Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?

I can’t get a longer mag, as far as I know. It’s a fierce fury and I’m almost positive it uses a Sako 85 mag.

You’d just eat up some case capacity. Give them a shot.

[Mtnwalker]

Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond.  That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum 

You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?

Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence!

 

Has Berger changed their recipe since 2014ish? Hate to start beating this ol' horse again but I had a couple bad experiences with them prior to then, one muley at 300 and one elk at 75, both had major penciling on all non-bone shots. I haven't paid much attention to them since. In all fairness I was shooting them in 7mm, not 30 cal. although my hunting partner lost a great 7x7 rosie in 2015 with 4 good shots out of a 30-378 at under 100 and never found the bull. Everything i've shot with them beyond 500 has died real good.

[jasnt]

Makes no sense that they wouldn’t open at close range and do at long range
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?   

[Jonathan_S]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

[BULLBLASTER]

I can’t really speak to any of them except the 215 hybrid targets. I do find it suspect how 4 good shots wouldn’t bring down an elk regardless of bullet choice tho.

[jasnt]

With a 30-378 I would think the static shock alone would bring it down even with fmj

[Jonathan_S]

215s are killer and are an overachiever on velocity too

[Wild Bill]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

[h20hunter]

Bill....I'll be taking my rbros 7 with 180's for moose next year.  Stoked.

[Mtnwalker]

Makes no sense that they wouldn’t open at close range and do at long range
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?

I thought the exact same thing. They were all orange box VLD's. I don't remember if he was running the 190's or the 210's when he shot that big bull. Would have thought the first 2 were clean misses by the lack of reaction but they weren't. Tiny specs of blood and the gun was dialed. Broadside prone shots laying on a skid road, bull was also in the road.  I shot a small 2pt bull at 75 yds and poked a tiny pencil hole thru the lungs with virtually no damage. I have pics of the exit somewhere, i'll see if i can dig em up. Got lucky on the followup and broke the spine at base of the neck on a dead run.  Also poked 2 pencil holes thru the mule deer at 300, 3rd one that hit rib did good and blew off his g4 with the 4th shot as he ran downhill.

[jasnt]

Strange

[Wild Bill]

Bill....I'll be taking my rbros 7 with 180's for moose next year.  Stoked.

lot of fun man.
WB

[Mtnwalker]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.

[Jonathan_S]

I had a 215 not open on a 70 yard shot from a 300 wsm. But it went through the lungs and the speed alone destroyed that animal in 60 yards

[Damnimissed]

Yeaahhh, I think I’ll just stick to 200gr AB for elk. I’ll probably play around with some Berger’s or eldx and use them on an Idaho muley if I can get them to shoot good.

[Wild Bill]

Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down

 

With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards.  I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.

WB

You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.

I am not doubting. Its just never happened to me, and I pray it doesn't!

WB

[carpsniperg2]

The accubond will have better weight retention for sure. However I have shot more then a dozen animals last few years with the eld-x. I have yet to recover one of them! All have killed well. 2 elk cow at like 70 yards and bull at 400+.

I shoot a lot of brands and shoot what the guns like. I have seen berger horrors first hand, seen more then a few animals posted by berger shooters on here with more then 1 hole in them this year Yet they are all one shot kills   

[The scout]

Eld-x and bergers perform the same on game. But I decided to go with the eld-x because I feel like that little polymer tip will gaurantee expansion. I have killed roughly 15 animals with them and have never been let down. 212’s at 3100 seems to work pretty good