Deer poaching question

[Bigshooter]

Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS

Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.

Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.

I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.

I’m not. There’s already a lack of hunting opportunities in this state. In an area where mule deer don’t thrive, something(whitetails) is better than nothing.

Bigshooter ... I keep going back to this. I’m assuming you’re not implying you’re ok with poachers killing 5 whitetail does, at least some of which were probably carrying fawns, because you don’t like whitetails.

Say it ain’t so...

I never said I'm ok with poaching.  But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.

[Bigshooter]

Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS

Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.

Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.

I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.

So, are you defending poaching whitetails and killing people with whom you disagree? That's kind of bizarre. We won't get into the wolves statement. But please explain what you mean about the other two. Thanks.

 

[smithkl42]

I never said I'm ok with poaching.  But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.

I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?

[Bigshooter]

I never said I'm ok with poaching.  But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.

I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?

No not really.

[GBoyd]

I never said I'm ok with poaching.  But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.

I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?

No not really.

So we're left to guess?

It's probably not a whitetails in the garden situation, living in Lewis County. So it's either a traumatic experience as a child or just good old fashioned trolling.

[Dan-o]

I never said I'm ok with poaching.  But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.

I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?

No not really.

So we're left to guess?

It's probably not a whitetails in the garden situation, living in Lewis County. So it's either a traumatic experience as a child or just good old fashioned trolling.

I'm not looking to argue or troll, but my guess is simply that he's a diehard  Muley fan.

No offense intended if that's not it.

[grundy53]

I think the reason that thread didn't blow up but a tribal one would is because almost everyone is against poachers. We are all in agreement. So there isn't much back and forth. There are only so many posts until it's pointless to post another. With a tribal kill there are folks on both side. So there is a lot of back and forth. But that's just my theory.

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[grundy53]

pretty similiar to most......take the Are you watching the video series thread.  Even with a little self promotion or bump posts from friends or the peanut gallery, (Thats you Karl Blanchard  )  only a page or two long after a week.  Throw in an orange vest comment, and we doubled in size while I was at lunch.   

Interest level I guess.

Sorry about that.

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[Rainier10]

I think the reason that thread didn't blow up but a tribal one would is because almost everyone is against poachers. We are all in agreement. So there isn't much back and forth. There are only so many posts until it's pointless to post another. With a tribal kill there are folks on both side. So there is a lot of back and forth. But that's just my theory.

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Great point and one I had thought about driving around today. Thanks for bringing that option up.

When everyone is in agreement the thread dies.

Look how this one blew up with comments when bigshooter made his comments that were different than most.

[bearpaw]

  Exactly right, the big discussions are almost always the ones with differing views!

[jackelope]

The reason I posted it was to get the word out that it happened. Maybe someone saw something or who knows what. Make folks aware and maybe they’ll keep an eye peeled. Next time they’re driving down the Tucannon River Rd and they see a pickup looking suspicious it’ll make them think . I wasn’t really expecting a  rise out of anyone.

Full disclosure from me as the guy who started the thread. 

[JWEBB]

I posted in disgust right after jack posted. It’s just as bad as any other poaching in my opinion. Without those does, where will the bucks come from? And I’m sure I’ll get backlash for this but I’m all for ending doe hunts for a few years until our populations go back up. I hunt very close to where this happened and I know firsthand how bad it has gotten. My children will do just fine without a doe tag

[Mr Mykiss]

For me it’s hard to get emotional when even if they were to get caught they would barely be punished.

[pianoman9701]

I think the reason that thread didn't blow up but a tribal one would is because almost everyone is against poachers. We are all in agreement. So there isn't much back and forth. There are only so many posts until it's pointless to post another. With a tribal kill there are folks on both side. So there is a lot of back and forth. But that's just my theory.

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Sounds right.

[Rainier10]

Maybe it is because nobody gets on these threads and argues that it is okay.  Bigshooter said he would be happy if all whitetails were gone and this thread got legs for a little bit.

On the tribal threads you get responses that it is legal for tribal members to shoot as many deer and elk as they want and that is what keeps those threads going, the banter back and forth.  Of course they do have the right to shoot 5 does if they want and whoever shot the deer in the Tucannon probably didn't have the right to, they were breaking the law.

I believe just last year a group of younger tribe members did just that, shot 4 or 5 does and put them in a spot to bait in bald eagles and then shot the eagles IIRC.  That thread didn't go too far as I recall.  I don't remember anyone coming on here saying that it was okay to shoot the deer just to use as bait for eagle feathers.  So maybe some tribal threads don't get blown up and more attention than a poaching thread.

Looks like today is going to be a busy one.  I see there are two new poaching threads.