Radio Collared "WOLF IN TOWN" this morning, WDFW called

[idahohuntr]

The big problem is that wolves aren't managed in WA and have far less fear of man or human activity. Wolves rarely come near our home or other nearby homes in the area where we operate in northern Idaho because the wolves know they will get shot at. In NE WA these wolves don't have near the fear and are now frequenting human populated areas. That's how it used to be in Idaho 10 years ago, wolves were being seen in towns in north Idaho. After being hunted for nearly 10 years those Idaho wolves mostly stay back in the more remote areas away from humans.

Did those wolves in Idaho 10 years ago attack or kill many people?

0 people were injured or killed, to be exact.

The usual play on words, 

Yes, people were attacked, fortunately they successfully defended themselves, like my neighbor did here in WA in 2014, he shot the wolf in mid air leaping at him. There was similar that occurred in Idaho. Many hounds were also eaten, that has also dropped way off since wolf hunting is occurring.

How many were attacked, and how do you define "attacked"?

I know of several people who were setup cow calling and brought a wolf into close range that they ended up harvesting.  I do not consider those attacks. 

I'm sure there are many who consider seeing a wolf inside 100 yards an attack.

In the air coming at you or on the ground coming at you on a run less than 30 yards seems like an attack to me?

Seems reasonable.  And how many of those occurred in Idaho since wolves were reintroduced? I'm only aware of the lady with the pistol - and it seems more like she called in the wolf with cow calls...not that I'd be waiting around and not shooting a wolf in close proximity to me, but I'm not seeing this as a wolf targeting a human.  She was setup with the wind in her favor and the wolf came in...I don't recall it lunging at her...maybe it did??

Bottom line - I'm seeing one possible example and I'm not aware of any other scenarios that meet the definition above - and we can all agree there have been 0 injuries or deaths...thank goodness. 

So - I'm not seeing any evidence that would suggest what I said is a "play on words".  What I stated is unequivocal fact...and I think we all do better if we neither downplay nor exaggerate the risks and dangers associated with predators and wild animals.   

[bearpaw]

Am I the only one whom is surprised that a Helo could be dispatched that quickly to Sheppard that wolf to safety before it became a hood ornament?

We don't know where the choppers come from, but they have been sighted numerous times when wolves are in the valley. We don't know if that is coincidence, if they are monitoring, or if they are trying to keep them out of the valley due to all the cattle feeding operations and residences.

[Ridgeratt]

Isn't there a Deer tagging and study going on right now in the NE corner? If that's the case the chopper could have been close. I do vaguely remember reading something about one.

[Skyvalhunter]

Am I the only one whom is surprised that a Helo could be dispatched that quickly to Sheppard that wolf to safety before it became a hood ornament?

We don't know where the choppers come from, but they have been sighted numerous times when wolves are in the valley. We don't know if that is coincidence, if they are monitoring, or if they are trying to keep them out of the valley due to all the cattle feeding operations and residences.

Just whos paying for this wolf round up type of behavior? It shouldn't fall on the hunters and fishermen to foot the bill if they do

[HighlandLofts]

With the freedom of information act shouldn't all of the paperwork in this wolf operation be open to the public?

[Special T]

With the freedom of information act shouldn't all of the paperwork in this wolf operation be open to the public?

As I remember hearing all of the folks on the WAG have a gag order on them not to talk about the issues, AND the information is not available for public disclosure...

[pianoman9701]

WAG may have a gag order but that doesn't mean the DFW is able to ignore a FOIA request. Submit one. See what happens.  I submitted one some years ago about the wolf program and got some answers back. Questions were submitted to the WDFW, the USFWS, NPS, and NFS. All of them responded. Some of the responses were less informative than the others, but they responded.

[jackelope]

I'm 90% sure that a member of the forum submitted for wolf info based on the FOIA act a long time ago and got info. Don't hold me to that. I haven't talked to the guy in a long time and he doesn't participate on the forum anymore.

[jackelope]

With the freedom of information act shouldn't all of the paperwork in this wolf operation be open to the public?

As I remember hearing all of the folks on the WAG have a gag order on them not to talk about the issues, AND the information is not available for public disclosure...

That would be weird...where'd you hear that? Even the meetings are public.

Here's the member handbook.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/advisory_group_handbook_2017.pdf

[jackelope]

From the handbook.

[Special T]

With the freedom of information act shouldn't all of the paperwork in this wolf operation be open to the public?

As I remember hearing all of the folks on the WAG have a gag order on them not to talk about the issues, AND the information is not available for public disclosure...

That would be weird...where'd you hear that? Even the meetings are public.

Here's the member handbook.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/advisory_group_handbook_2017.pdf

I talked to A Wag Member whom stated they couldnt speak publicly about it. I belive A non disclosure agreement was signed when they brought in the  million dollar mediator.

[jackelope]

With the freedom of information act shouldn't all of the paperwork in this wolf operation be open to the public?

As I remember hearing all of the folks on the WAG have a gag order on them not to talk about the issues, AND the information is not available for public disclosure...

That would be weird...where'd you hear that? Even the meetings are public.

Here's the member handbook.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/about/advisory/advisory_group_handbook_2017.pdf

I talked to A Wag Member whom stated they couldnt speak publicly about it. I belive A non disclosure agreement was signed when they brought in the  million dollar mediator.

Not directing this at you specifically, but that makes no sense.  the meetings are public.  Everything available is public info and available via the FOIA. I don’t get why there’d be a non-disclosure agreement signed.
I messaged a member who is on the WAG to ask him if this is valid. I’ll let you know what he says.

[pianoman9701]

I'm 90% sure that a member of the forum submitted for wolf info based on the FOIA act a long time ago and got info. Don't hold me to that. I haven't talked to the guy in a long time and he doesn't participate on the forum anymore.

That was I.

[Thermal Predator Control]

Care to share the info?

[Tbar]

I'm 90% sure that a member of the forum submitted for wolf info based on the FOIA act a long time ago and got info. Don't hold me to that. I haven't talked to the guy in a long time and he doesn't participate on the forum anymore.

That was I.

And now you've become an expert on worldwide wolf behavior. I'm still trying to process your "wolves are different" post. Did your FOIA reveal the "cycle" you referenced in that post?  Interesting to say the least.