SEATTLE OUTDOOR RADIO HOST FACES $2,500 FINE FOR FEEDING SEAL A FISH FIN

[bearpaw]

SEATTLE OUTDOOR RADIO HOST FACES $2,500 FINE FOR FEEDING SEAL A FISH FIN

A Puget Sound pier angler who involuntary fed a harbor seal his Chinook this morning won’t face a fine.

But a local radio show host who flicked a dorsal fin to another lurking like “dogs at the dinner table” to illustrate the marine mammal’s overabundance and impact on ESA-listed salmon stocks in the inland sea faces a bill that’s grown to $2,500 for doing so.

full story: https://mailchi.mp/46ed6239e0b8/puget-sound-crab-season-begins-jun-1627825?e=a64b754ccb

[ThurstonCokid]

My dad works with this guy. Pretty crazy story..


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[Alchase]

Go Tom!

[trophyhunt]

Wth, started as a 500 dollar fine for throwing a fin to a seal??  So confused why that is illegal?  Up at neah bay the sea lions are few all day long at the cleaning station.

[Knocker of rocks]

His arguement that it wasn't in the wild, but inside a harbor, hence the law doesn't apply.

He lost me there with his idiocy.   By his way of thinking, laws that use those terms shouldn't apply on the Columbia or any river with dams.  It probably shouldn't apply to the lower Columbia or Greys Harbor because the massive dredging that goes on there renders those bodies no longer "wild" by his definition.

I had sympathy for him, but after understanding his moronic logic, jail time would be OK.

[bigtex]

He wasn't fined $2,500. He was fined $500 and didn't pay it, thus the fine increased.

[Stein]

His arguement that it wasn't in the wild, but inside a harbor, hence the law doesn't apply.

He lost me there with his idiocy.   By his way of thinking, laws that use those terms shouldn't apply on the Columbia or any river with dams.  It probably shouldn't apply to the lower Columbia or Greys Harbor because the massive dredging that goes on there renders those bodies no longer "wild" by his definition.

I had sympathy for him, but after understanding his moronic logic, jail time would be OK.

You really want to live in a country where you can go to jail for feeding a seal?

[Bushcraft]

This reeks of heavy-handed selective "law" enforcement.

[Knocker of rocks]

His arguement that it wasn't in the wild, but inside a harbor, hence the law doesn't apply.

He lost me there with his idiocy.   By his way of thinking, laws that use those terms shouldn't apply on the Columbia or any river with dams.  It probably shouldn't apply to the lower Columbia or Greys Harbor because the massive dredging that goes on there renders those bodies no longer "wild" by his definition.

I had sympathy for him, but after understanding his moronic logic, jail time would be OK.

You really want to live in a country where you can go to jail for feeding a seal?

I just want him in jail for positing a moronic legal argument.

[ThurstonCokid]

His arguement that it wasn't in the wild, but inside a harbor, hence the law doesn't apply.

He lost me there with his idiocy.   By his way of thinking, laws that use those terms shouldn't apply on the Columbia or any river with dams.  It probably shouldn't apply to the lower Columbia or Greys Harbor because the massive dredging that goes on there renders those bodies no longer "wild" by his definition.

I had sympathy for him, but after understanding his moronic logic, jail time would be OK.

You really want to live in a country where you can go to jail for feeding a seal?

I just want him in jail for positing a moronic legal argument.

You serious? LOL


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[kenzmad]

As a comment on another forum read, “ couldnt they cite all the kids and moms at the local beach the same for feeding the birds?”

[Alchase]

As a comment on another forum read, “ couldnt they cite all the kids and moms at the local beach the same for feeding the birds?”

And every fishing pier, marina, or boat launch on the salt where sea-lions hang out. And every boat where people throw their old bait over board. there is a reason they follow boats into the marina.

[bkaech]

I just want him in jail for positing a moronic legal argument.
[/quote]

Most "legal" arguments are moronic, just trying to find a technicality to get out of it. I'm sure he didn't think about it when he did it..."o this isn't the wild so I won't get in trouble." Just the legal technicality side of it. 

And the biggest reason he isn't paying and the fine is increasing is to get publicity about the problem...too many seals, which is a real issue.

[fishngamereaper]

His arguement that it wasn't in the wild, but inside a harbor, hence the law doesn't apply.

He lost me there with his idiocy.   By his way of thinking, laws that use those terms shouldn't apply on the Columbia or any river with dams.  It probably shouldn't apply to the lower Columbia or Greys Harbor because the massive dredging that goes on there renders those bodies no longer "wild" by his definition.

I had sympathy for him, but after understanding his moronic logic, jail time would be OK.

You really want to live in a country where you can go to jail for feeding a seal?

I just want him in jail for positing a moronic legal argument.

Man if we could put everyone in jail that use moronic legal arguments....

[Knocker of rocks]

Man if we could put everyone in jail that use moronic legal arguments....

President Al Gore

[AL WORRELLS KID]

So should these Parents face charges for feeding the Seal? 
Doug

[Knocker of rocks]

So should these Parents face charges for feeding the Seal? 

Ask Canada.

Tom Nelson is in trouble with NOAA, a United States agency, for actions he admittedly did in US waters.   

People in a marina in Canada, a soveriegn nation are fully under the jurisdiction of Canada.

[Alchase]

So should these Parents face charges for feeding the Seal? 
Doug

No those parents should be in jail for standing there watching after it happened. The man who jumped in to get her out, was just walking past at the time and jumped in for a total stranger while mom and dad just stood there.

[bhawley76]

I wonder what the fine would have been if he'd feed him a bullet? Just asking for a friend.

[Stein]

Up to $28,520 and/or a year in prison.

[JJB11B]

everywhere you go on a charter the guys and gals cleaning fish are flipping carcasses to the seals and sea lions and nobody bats an eye

[Stein]

everywhere you go on a charter the guys and gals cleaning fish are flipping carcasses to the seals and sea lions and nobody bats an eye

My personal belief is that with John, he was making a point about the mismanagement of the pinnipeds which is aimed directly at the agencies that should be doing a better job.  That agency is also tasked with enforcement and gave him the ticket.  They could have issued a statement, given him a warning, did a joint interview or somehow taken a different approach, but didn't and the wedge gets driven a little bit deeper.

It's hard to argue that he wasn't singled out, but who knows, maybe they issue those tickets all the time.   

[h20hunter]

In the very beginning of the full article.....who flicked a....to illustrate ....

I read that as to say it was an intentional act to illicit a citation and make his point. He isn't stupid and had to of anticipated and desired the current outcome.

[Stein]

I think I remember an interview where he said neither he nor the news crew knew it was a crime.  Their point was to show how there are tons of seals everywhere.

I didn’t know it was a crime as others mentioned it goes on everywhere there are fish being cleaned in a harbor.


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