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I don't know or have the answer to everything but here is a few things I have experienced, My hunting partners brother in law owns an orchard in eastern Washington (I wont tell where because I don't want him to have any fallout). The deer are eating his young trees. He contacted the game dept and they came out and looked at the damage. He gets damage control tags when he wants them. he is not a hunter but some of his friends are. I hunted the orchard two weeks ago on a damage control tag. Most of the tags are either sex tags. He (friends and family) have shot 24 deer off of his orchard in the last 12 months out of season. When he needs a tag they email it over to him and he can give it to whomever he wants to. If they kill a deer they send an email or call the WDFW employee in charge of the program in his area. As far as I can tell, there is no reporting of these results at all in all the statistics that the WDFW provides to the public. Who knows what farmers and where are getting these permits. when we hunted it we were asked to not post pictures on facebook or other areas and to not brag about the hunt so others would not know about it. I think the whole thing is messed up if you ask me. I think these should all be special draws with youth and seniors getting the first shot at the tags. Just my opinion.On the cow verse bull meat for Jerky, All I can say is I can make Jerky out of both and you cant tell the difference. Now a steak or a roast is another issue and thing. Cow is much better. But a native shooting a 700 pound bull can make a lot more jerky than shooting a 300 pound cow. Plus the antlers on the bull are worth hundreds of dollars and on a true trophy bull (360 inches plus) is thousands of dollars.As for being able to do anything about the native hunting, good luck! Not a chance! Why would they report when they don't have too! Yes, some of you will say because it is the right thing to do, but they don't really care. Why does a dog lick his hiney? Because he can. They will hunt with all of the most modern gear and equipment but when they show up in the court system to be challenged they will show up in feathers and loin clothes pounding a drum and singing chants. The liberal left jury will look at them immediately and be appalled that we are even thinking of trying to inforce some sanity into the system and throw it all out of court immediately. That is why WDFW has decided to not waste any more of their recourses fighting them in court. They always loose. Face it fellas, Washington will never address their predator issues no matter if it is wolves, natives, cats, or bears. King County runs this state and will continue to do so. Wolves could be eating children here in eastern Washington on the way to school and the animal activists in King County would insist we do nothing.It is interesting to me as I hunt other states that the natives all hunt there own rules and their own seasons but only on their reservations. Outside of their reservations they have to follow the same rules as others as it should be. But in Washington and Oregon they have used the liberal court system to their advantage.Just my two cents on the matter from an old hunter here in eastern Washington that probably doesn't have a lick of sense! You can kiss Washington state good bye when it comes to resident hunting oppurtunities. Mabybe, and I say maybe, someday it will all come crashing down because it is us that are truly funding all of the native hunting and the care and well being of all of these preditors. The natives and the activists don't pay anything! They are just sucking the system dry! It is only in the pocket book that this might (and probably wont) get any attention and solved. So just keep buying those overpriced licenses! (and they are wondering why Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming are selling out on all of their out of state licenses) It is going to get nothing but worse and I mean a lot worse. What I have seen in just the last 5-10 years is scary!!!
Quote from: dvolmer on September 17, 2019, 01:54:18 PMI don't know or have the answer to everything but here is a few things I have experienced, My hunting partners brother in law owns an orchard in eastern Washington (I wont tell where because I don't want him to have any fallout). The deer are eating his young trees. He contacted the game dept and they came out and looked at the damage. He gets damage control tags when he wants them. he is not a hunter but some of his friends are. I hunted the orchard two weeks ago on a damage control tag. Most of the tags are either sex tags. He (friends and family) have shot 24 deer off of his orchard in the last 12 months out of season. When he needs a tag they email it over to him and he can give it to whomever he wants to. If they kill a deer they send an email or call the WDFW employee in charge of the program in his area. As far as I can tell, there is no reporting of these results at all in all the statistics that the WDFW provides to the public. Who knows what farmers and where are getting these permits. when we hunted it we were asked to not post pictures on facebook or other areas and to not brag about the hunt so others would not know about it. I think the whole thing is messed up if you ask me. I think these should all be special draws with youth and seniors getting the first shot at the tags. Just my opinion.On the cow verse bull meat for Jerky, All I can say is I can make Jerky out of both and you cant tell the difference. Now a steak or a roast is another issue and thing. Cow is much better. But a native shooting a 700 pound bull can make a lot more jerky than shooting a 300 pound cow. Plus the antlers on the bull are worth hundreds of dollars and on a true trophy bull (360 inches plus) is thousands of dollars.As for being able to do anything about the native hunting, good luck! Not a chance! Why would they report when they don't have too! Yes, some of you will say because it is the right thing to do, but they don't really care. Why does a dog lick his hiney? Because he can. They will hunt with all of the most modern gear and equipment but when they show up in the court system to be challenged they will show up in feathers and loin clothes pounding a drum and singing chants. The liberal left jury will look at them immediately and be appalled that we are even thinking of trying to inforce some sanity into the system and throw it all out of court immediately. That is why WDFW has decided to not waste any more of their recourses fighting them in court. They always loose. Face it fellas, Washington will never address their predator issues no matter if it is wolves, natives, cats, or bears. King County runs this state and will continue to do so. Wolves could be eating children here in eastern Washington on the way to school and the animal activists in King County would insist we do nothing.It is interesting to me as I hunt other states that the natives all hunt there own rules and their own seasons but only on their reservations. Outside of their reservations they have to follow the same rules as others as it should be. But in Washington and Oregon they have used the liberal court system to their advantage.Just my two cents on the matter from an old hunter here in eastern Washington that probably doesn't have a lick of sense! You can kiss Washington state good bye when it comes to resident hunting oppurtunities. Mabybe, and I say maybe, someday it will all come crashing down because it is us that are truly funding all of the native hunting and the care and well being of all of these preditors. The natives and the activists don't pay anything! They are just sucking the system dry! It is only in the pocket book that this might (and probably wont) get any attention and solved. So just keep buying those overpriced licenses! (and they are wondering why Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming are selling out on all of their out of state licenses) It is going to get nothing but worse and I mean a lot worse. What I have seen in just the last 5-10 years is scary!!!I thought you didn't lie.... Making blanket statements and promoting a false narrative is no different than an all out lie.
I still agree with bobcat. We need to open up the whole state and follow the tribes ,that hunt that area, there regulations. No tags no licenses no bag limit or whatever there regulations are.This is the only way to get something accomplished Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
Quote from: emac on September 17, 2019, 04:14:53 PMI still agree with bobcat. We need to open up the whole state and follow the tribes ,that hunt that area, there regulations. No tags no licenses no bag limit or whatever there regulations are.This is the only way to get something accomplished Sent from my SM-G935V using TapatalkYup, been saying that as well for a long time. wdfw doesn't have the balls to do this, but it would certainly get the tribes to the table and even things up.
Personally I’d like to see a law that bans selling any part of game animal. No jerky. No antlers. No sheds. Nothing. It’s already federal law on waterfowl. You can’t even sell a mount. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Giggling emoji? You don't know me know me, not what I've done on behalf of the resources you're attempting to speak for. Your claims and accusations that we all are the same are baseless, unfounded and ignorant. There's over 11,000 Yakamas and I don't know even half of them.I was doing things on behalf of the resources log before I came here and was doing them while I was here and will continue after.Why don't you go back and do some research or ask people here that are non-natives that ive met with and had lengthy discussions with in person. Do you think this thread is new? I remember it getting so bad here that no matter what I said, what I showed or what I did didn't matter to some. SOME, not all, a FEW bad apples ruined it for the rest of the HW members. I couldn't post anything anywhere without coming under attack. For whatever reason I was pegged as the representative of the tribe here, supposedly whatever a tribal member did was my direct fault and knowledge and I could've prevented it. Really??? Me??? So yes, I put a laughing emoticon at the end because I'm leaning more and more towards ignoring these types of threads because no matter what I say most won't listen.Like I said, who else enjoys being told by others how I am, who I am and what I do when they're completely wrong.Oh well...flame on.
