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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2020, 02:11:27 PM »
Piss moan and complain all you want.  They could say. NO ENTRY period.   That's the way a lot of game preserves are.  I think its also a way to deter tribal hunting where its ok to "trespass".     

THe least of your 2A concerns.


I'd like to cross reference anyone complaining about poaching on here or lack of enforcement yet trying to argue to carry on a game reserve.

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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2020, 02:21:12 PM »
@Bigtex just found a good page regarding WDFW lands recreational use and the law. It seems like most activities that they mention have some sort of specific law tied to them but there is that signage law and the department “rule” violation subset that you describe. Like you said it sounds like they could put up anything they wanted, the question is whether it would stand up in court or not. I guess it would depend on whether you were behaving in a generally lawful manner and whether your constitutional/state rights were being violated. Just sad in my opinion that someone could be potentially guilty until proven innocent due to an arbitrary sign, which is not the American way.
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2020, 02:27:39 PM »
Piss moan and complain all you want.  They could say. NO ENTRY period.   That's the way a lot of game preserves are.  I think its also a way to deter tribal hunting where its ok to "trespass".     

THe least of your 2A concerns.


I'd like to cross reference anyone complaining about poaching on here or lack of enforcement yet trying to argue to carry on a game reserve.
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2020, 02:29:17 PM »
Should re locate those signs to the Coffin.


Well said Bone.
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #64 on: January 07, 2020, 02:46:33 PM »
Piss moan and complain all you want.  They could say. NO ENTRY period.   That's the way a lot of game preserves are.  I think its also a way to deter tribal hunting where its ok to "trespass".     

THe least of your 2A concerns.


I'd like to cross reference anyone complaining about poaching on here or lack of enforcement yet trying to argue to carry on a game reserve.
Yes they certainly could. Pretty sickening, eh? Click click click

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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #65 on: January 07, 2020, 03:22:17 PM »
I love it when someone is asking a legitimate question and than multiple people start going off topic and bringing up random things that have nothing to do with the original post.   :bash:
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #66 on: January 07, 2020, 03:31:52 PM »
I don't know if this has been mentioned but there is also private land within the game reserve boundary. 
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #67 on: January 07, 2020, 04:03:56 PM »
Our Governor and our AG both ignore our state and federal rights. They push bills in front of each legislature to further restrict our rights. They accept out-of-state money to continue their intrusions. Maybe we can take it easy on one another when our angst is born of these constant attacks on our rights. All of us can agree that WA is getting ridiculous in that regard. Just sayin'
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #68 on: January 07, 2020, 06:23:32 PM »
So does a WAC preempt an enumerated right in the U.S. Constitution. I'm betting no but do you have the funds or the patience to fight it in court?
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2020, 09:31:57 PM »
No need to be confused.  Here is how i determine if i can carry a gun somewhere.  Its a simple proccess really.

Are there armed guards manning a metal detector at the entrance?  If no, im carrying.
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2020, 09:45:01 PM »
I just got a $150 ticket for walking past a sign that was vague to me. The ticket was literally given to me for walking on a dirt road even with no intent to hunt(was in jeans and Sweat shirt, no gun) because I didn’t understand the sign 100% correctly. So yeah..I wouldn’t test it by carrying a gun in there, but hey that’s just me.
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #71 on: January 07, 2020, 09:51:17 PM »
I just got a $150 ticket for walking past a sign that was vague to me. The ticket was literally given to me for walking on a dirt road even with no intent to hunt(was in jeans and Sweat shirt, no gun) because I didn’t understand the sign 100% correctly. So yeah..I wouldn’t test it by carrying a gun in there, but hey that’s just me.

What did the sign say- "No Trespassing"?  :chuckle:
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #72 on: January 07, 2020, 09:55:50 PM »
I just got a $150 ticket for walking past a sign that was vague to me. The ticket was literally given to me for walking on a dirt road even with no intent to hunt(was in jeans and Sweat shirt, no gun) because I didn’t understand the sign 100% correctly. So yeah..I wouldn’t test it by carrying a gun in there, but hey that’s just me.

What did the sign say- "No Trespassing"?  :chuckle:
Ya he didn’t believe me when I said “No Habla Ingles!”  :chuckle:
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Re: Can WDFW really click their boot heels and take away my gun rights?
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2020, 10:04:23 PM »
I got a ticket for having a firearm inside a National Park. Actually- the ranger couldn't write me up for the gun, but she made up something else in place of it. This was just before Obama changed the rule. She couldn't cite the gun because I could produce conflicting National Park literature that they themselves handed out in their visitor office, that clearly said I could have a cased, unloaded firearm within the boundaries. She was all kinds of mad though. They actually confiscated my gun for almost a month. It was a shotgun that I had painted camo and apparently they couldn't read the s/n very well and wanted to verify that it wasn't stolen. This was in AK in Katmai. She was more angry that we were camping away from their little controlled camping area. They really love to stranglehold you in that park. They kind of make you feel like you are imposing on them and their bears. Pretty frustrating at times.

That said- I really don't see a problem with this sign. I think there is too much being made out of it. And Boneaddict is correct- just be glad they let you in there at all.
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