Nooksac elk

[Ace]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

[slim9300]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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[Duckslayer89]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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No such thing as really point creep in this state as the people with “max points” don’t get a percentage of the tags. Really you have a chance with 1 point. True though easier units to draw

[slim9300]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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No such thing as really point creep in this state as the people with “max points” don’t get a percentage of the tags. Really you have a chance with 1 point. True though easier units to draw

Point creep has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Point creep is when more people apply each year for the tag you are seeking and odds for the same number of points goes down each year. This effectively makes your points less valuable compared to the prior draws for people with the same total. The point is, if you are at say 10 now, by the time you get to 20 points instead of the odds being 8% for archery like they are now, they could very easily be 4%. This is the case in nearly every Western state with a point system in the popular trophy units. The only way you don’t have point creep is when the number of people applying either decreases or stays the same (either that or they increase the number of tags of course).


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[ghosthunter]

I know  a guy who has drawn the tag twice and killed big bulls each time. I live nearby and never put in  for it.

[Ace]

Got drawn for the dessert last year. So maybe I can get drawn for elk this year. I don’t give up

[Duckslayer89]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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No such thing as really point creep in this state as the people with “max points” don’t get a percentage of the tags. Really you have a chance with 1 point. True though easier units to draw

Point creep has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Point creep is when more people apply each year for the tag you are seeking and odds for the same number of points goes down each year. This effectively makes your points less valuable compared to the prior draws for people with the same total. The point is, if you are at say 10 now, by the time you get to 20 points instead of the odds being 8% for archery like they are now, they could very easily be 4%. This is the case in nearly every Western state with a point system in the popular trophy units. The only way you don’t have point creep is when the number of people applying either decreases or stays the same (either that or they increase the number of tags of course).


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I was under the impression point creep was when you were usually guaranteed a tag with a certain amount of points. Let’s say 3 for a general elk tag in Wyoming. Then the next year it takes 4 points. That’s point creep.

[Dan-o]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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No such thing as really point creep in this state as the people with “max points” don’t get a percentage of the tags. Really you have a chance with 1 point. True though easier units to draw

Point creep has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Point creep is when more people apply each year for the tag you are seeking and odds for the same number of points goes down each year. This effectively makes your points less valuable compared to the prior draws for people with the same total. The point is, if you are at say 10 now, by the time you get to 20 points instead of the odds being 8% for archery like they are now, they could very easily be 4%. This is the case in nearly every Western state with a point system in the popular trophy units. The only way you don’t have point creep is when the number of people applying either decreases or stays the same (either that or they increase the number of tags of course).


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I was under the impression point creep was when you were usually guaranteed a tag with a certain amount of points. Let’s say 3 for a general elk tag in Wyoming. Then the next year it takes 4 points. That’s point creep.

I think of point creep as existing in both cases:   States where the known number of points to draw increases, AND states like ours where you could legitimately draw the most coveted tag with no points......   But your odds of drawing keep going down each year even as you're building points.  Average points to draw good tags in this state is going up (can't really say creeping because it's going up too fast....   :-(    ).   

 

[Magnum_Willys]

Got drawn for the dessert last year. So maybe I can get drawn for elk this year. I don’t give up

[Elkfun12]

Go to page 5 on the forum and look at 418 big bull. I poated that last year and tried a tag holder on him. He never showed back up. Putting in a foodplot this week. Had 2 bulls last week show up. Already starying to grow somw bone.

[Tbar]

Go to page 5 on the forum and look at 418 big bull. I poated that last year and tried a tag holder on him. He never showed back up. Putting in a foodplot this week. Had 2 bulls last week show up. Already starying to grow somw bone.

That bull was harvested.

[Elkfun12]

Oh that's cool! Do you have any pictures of him that you can share?

[slim9300]

Anyone heard anything about the Nooksac unit for elk ? Any info on how the hunting has been the last few years ? Thinking about putting in for it this year.

Hahaha. Well, 10 points gets you about a 2% chance of drawing for archery and 1.5% for muzzy and rifle. 20 points gets you 8%, 5% and 6% draw odds. You could put in until you die and probably won’t draw since point creep is lowering the odds yearly also.

Might want to look at a unit you could actually draw?

Nooksack has been getting worse every year for the last 15 or so.


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No such thing as really point creep in this state as the people with “max points” don’t get a percentage of the tags. Really you have a chance with 1 point. True though easier units to draw

Point creep has nothing to do with what you are talking about. Point creep is when more people apply each year for the tag you are seeking and odds for the same number of points goes down each year. This effectively makes your points less valuable compared to the prior draws for people with the same total. The point is, if you are at say 10 now, by the time you get to 20 points instead of the odds being 8% for archery like they are now, they could very easily be 4%. This is the case in nearly every Western state with a point system in the popular trophy units. The only way you don’t have point creep is when the number of people applying either decreases or stays the same (either that or they increase the number of tags of course).


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I was under the impression point creep was when you were usually guaranteed a tag with a certain amount of points. Let’s say 3 for a general elk tag in Wyoming. Then the next year it takes 4 points. That’s point creep.

I think of point creep as existing in both cases:   States where the known number of points to draw increases, AND states like ours where you could legitimately draw the most coveted tag with no points......   But your odds of drawing keep going down each year even as you're building points.  Average points to draw good tags in this state is going up (can't really say creeping because it's going up too fast....   :-(    ).   

 

Basically anything that devalues your points every year could be considered point creep I guess.


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[trophyhunt]

Our point system is all about luck, look at the broken down numbers on specific permits, it will show you who actually draws permits for each special hunt.  Most top point holders don’t draw, I haven’t looked at the nooksack but have others.  It’s all luck so just pic a tag that allows you to hunt the area you want to when you don’t draw, that’s what I’m doing from now on, screw waiting my entire life for a oil tag. The nook has huge bulls for what it’s worth, good luck.

[WSU]

Our point system is all about luck, look at the broken down numbers on specific permits, it will show you who actually draws permits for each special hunt.  Most top point holders don’t draw, I haven’t looked at the nooksack but have others.  It’s all luck so just pic a tag that allows you to hunt the area you want to when you don’t draw, that’s what I’m doing from now on, screw waiting my entire life for a oil tag. The nook has huge bulls for what it’s worth, good luck.

 

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[Tbar]

@Ace, what are you looking for.  The unit holds some big bulls but they are few and far between.  The hunt has gotten consistently tougher with increased pressure and forest maturation. If you are looking for a mature westside bull in the 270-290 range with the possibility of bigger it's a good unit.  I would say that 270 bulls are becoming less common than they once were just a few years ago.  It's a great unit with some of the biggest bodied bulls you'll ever see but the majority of the mature bulls are short and heavy. 

[JakeLand]

@Ace, what are you looking for.  The unit holds some big bulls but they are few and far between.  The hunt has gotten consistently tougher with increased pressure and forest maturation. If you are looking for a mature westside bull in the 270-290 range with the possibility of bigger it's a good unit.  I would say that 270 bulls are becoming less common than they once were just a few years ago.  It's a great unit with some of the biggest bodied bulls you'll ever see but the majority of the mature bulls are short and heavy. 

listen to Tbar he knows them !!

[slim9300]

@Ace, what are you looking for.  The unit holds some big bulls but they are few and far between.  The hunt has gotten consistently tougher with increased pressure and forest maturation. If you are looking for a mature westside bull in the 270-290 range with the possibility of bigger it's a good unit.  I would say that 270 bulls are becoming less common than they once were just a few years ago.  It's a great unit with some of the biggest bodied bulls you'll ever see but the majority of the mature bulls are short and heavy. 

This may be sound advice. Not sure why you received it though. 😂

Ace, keep in mind that the vast majority of hunters do not kill anything even close to 270” though. I am not being critical of their decisions, just stating a fact.


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[Tbar]

@Ace, what are you looking for.  The unit holds some big bulls but they are few and far between.  The hunt has gotten consistently tougher with increased pressure and forest maturation. If you are looking for a mature westside bull in the 270-290 range with the possibility of bigger it's a good unit.  I would say that 270 bulls are becoming less common than they once were just a few years ago.  It's a great unit with some of the biggest bodied bulls you'll ever see but the majority of the mature bulls are short and heavy. 

This may be sound advice. Not sure why you received it though. 😂

Ace, keep in mind that the vast majority of hunters do not kill anything even close to 270” though. I am not being critical of their decisions, just stating a fact.


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This is also fact.  People don't want to hear about the guy who went two weeks of daily hunting without seeing a bull before frustration caused him to turn his key and permit in.  Or that several spikes were shot. I can say that one 4x5 bull comes to mind and the happy hunter standing behind it(first bull at 72 after a lifetime of chasing them). The trophy for me lies in the hunt and I owe this hunt a lot when it comes to my friendship and time in the woods. That satisfaction is not always enough or even desired by some.  It's  draw time, like the night before Christmas.  People are set up with a lot of false expectations and very misguided by internet scores when it comes to this unit.  It's a sobering reality of what the westside has to offer, or this state for that matter. I should also state that they aren't true roosevelt's either.

[slim9300]

@Ace, what are you looking for.  The unit holds some big bulls but they are few and far between.  The hunt has gotten consistently tougher with increased pressure and forest maturation. If you are looking for a mature westside bull in the 270-290 range with the possibility of bigger it's a good unit.  I would say that 270 bulls are becoming less common than they once were just a few years ago.  It's a great unit with some of the biggest bodied bulls you'll ever see but the majority of the mature bulls are short and heavy. 

This may be sound advice. Not sure why you received it though. 😂

Ace, keep in mind that the vast majority of hunters do not kill anything even close to 270” though. I am not being critical of their decisions, just stating a fact.


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This is also fact.  People don't want to hear about the guy who went two weeks of daily hunting without seeing a bull before frustration caused him to turn his key and permit in.  Or that several spikes were shot. I can say that one 4x5 bull comes to mind and the happy hunter standing behind it(first bull at 72 after a lifetime of chasing them). The trophy for me lies in the hunt and I owe this hunt a lot when it comes to my friendship and time in the woods. That satisfaction is not always enough or even desired by some.  It's  draw time, like the night before Christmas.  People are set up with a lot of false expectations and very misguided by internet scores when it comes to this unit.  It's a sobering reality of what the westside has to offer, or this state for that matter. I should also state that they aren't true roosevelt's either.

I could never judge the experience of my hunt by the final score of my bull. I wish I could go back in time often. Maybe someday I’ll be rich. 😉


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[blackveltbowhunter]

  Some of it depends on what tag your planning to apply for. Perhaps I missed it.

  Tbar is spot on. The hunt is not a slam dunk for a big bull, and unlike some other units it is not densely populated with elk. It is a huge unit, with some very big country, some extremely thick country and like many areas some of the more visible elk especially large bulls are located in private property that is either off limits or logistically difficult to hunt. I think this tends to add to the units reputation as well.

  It has lots of different hunt options, want to get setup on a private land hunt, where your sitting and waiting? can probably make that happen. Want to hunt big timber and hills possibly overnight hunts in national forest? That's available also. Want a classic westside hunt on private timber company property with clear cuts and drainages? you got it. Want to mix it all together? go ahead.


  My experience was there are big bulls. Unfortunately there are also a few giants that are the enemy of big. If your lucky you wont find them.     

[dreamingbig]

Our point system is all about luck, look at the broken down numbers on specific permits, it will show you who actually draws permits for each special hunt.  Most top point holders don’t draw, I haven’t looked at the nooksack but have others.  It’s all luck so just pic a tag that allows you to hunt the area you want to when you don’t draw, that’s what I’m doing from now on, screw waiting my entire life for a oil tag. The nook has huge bulls for what it’s worth, good luck.

More people would draw if we had more permits given out.  We would also have more elk if they stopped the silly OTC spike seasons.  When we get more elk in the woods we might get more permits.


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