Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?

[dilleytech]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

[idahohuntr]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

[pd]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Regarding your question, I have no idea, no comment.

But thank you for posting that link.  It would appear (based upon the department's recommendations) that the following equipment changes would likely be accepted by the Commission: Break crumb nocks, peep sight verifiers, 1x scopes.  Personally, I don't care--I agree with WDFW that these are not substantially important changes (will not affect the total harvest numbers).

[actionshooter]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

[paguy]

I know a few hard core rifle elk hunters on the west side who cant wait to buy there new muzzy and scopes. You make muzzy's a 200 yard killer for the average joe and your going to see more join the fun. Because who wouldn't rather chase big bulls during the rut in october than pick up the scraps in november. Your going to half to hunt rifle season if you want to get away from the crowds over here.

[idahohuntr]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

[JimmyHoffa]

I know a few hard core rifle elk hunters on the west side who cant wait to buy there new muzzy and scopes. You make muzzy's a 200 yard killer for the average joe and your going to see more join the fun. Because who wouldn't rather chase big bull during the rut in october than pick up the scraps in november.

I'd say about a half dozen of the muzzy guys I see out in the woods (and to include myself), made the switch because of the scraps in November once more early units were added and then finally the 209/protected breech.  I've been trying to get a few others to switch...maybe the scope will make the difference, but I'm doubtful.  They did switch units to ones that don't have early muzzy, and a few now go to eastern Washington; but seems most of the rifle hunters I know that feel shafted are just going to Idaho.

[actionshooter]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

Are we reading two different things?   The last sentence is pretty clear...

[Bob33]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

It say they do not recommend telescopic scopes, not all scopes. Recommendation 3 addresses scopes with no magnification and they state they are not opposed to them.

[Cougartail]

https://ibb.co/ZJY6HJw

Tell me I wouldn't look good in the woods with this scoped rig!

[idahohuntr]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

It say they do not recommend telescopic scopes, not all scopes. Recommendation 3 addresses scopes with no magnification and they state they are not opposed to them.

Ahhh...yes, I did not catch that.  I wasn't reading the whole thing...or maybe I needed some magnified glasses...pun intended!

[Magnum_Willys]

I'd say about a half dozen of the muzzy guys I see out in the woods (and to include myself), made the switch because of the scraps in November once more early units were added and then finally the 209/protected breech.

All my buddys but one have switched to muzzy last couple years in WA.  He will switch if optics allowed.  No tags to draw on east side anymore and just scraps in Nov so at least Muzzy you get to hear em talking !

[dilleytech]

Could 1x be a slippery slope?

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/equipmentproposals_public_0.pdf

Good recommendation “the department”

I had not seen that earlier.  I suspected the Department was floating this so they can silence some squeaky wheels...not because they had a desire to allow 1x scopes.  Appears my suspicions were correct.

From reading that, sounds like the WDFW really doesn't care either way.

Says they do not recommend allowing scopes...that's as strong as they would word something like that. 

If the proposal doesn't get overwhelming support, it will be easy to reject. Dont run out and buy 1x scopes.

It say they do not recommend telescopic scopes, not all scopes. Recommendation 3 addresses scopes with no magnification and they state they are not opposed to them.

I was referring to issue 9 that the original poster posted where they did not recommend the initiative.

[253shotgunner]

Bob33 thanks! Now we know the proposed change is for 1x scopes and WDFW is against scopes with magnification.

I am the original poster. The above is what I understand is their position. It was the change over to 209 primers that got me to switch to muzzleloader. I actually hope we don't go to 1x scopes.

[scotbradly726]

OK, so call me ignorant, but I guess I don't understand what advantage you'd gain by using a 1x scope? What would the point be?

I have a week left in my late muzzy season, and as soon as the season is over, I'm putting this Williams set up on my Thompson Black Diamond XR. They claim it'll make a gun accurate to 200yards.

https://shop.williamsgunsight.com/ecommerce/p/wgrs--western-precision-muzzleloading-set-676584

I guess I don't understand the whole non-magnified scope thing, either way pro or con.