New Rifle/Caliber debate

[jjness11]

I have had a lot of lose primer pockets with Nosler. It doesn't seem to stretch anywhere near as much as Hornady. But since I started running Lapua for calibers they support, I lean that direction when I can. Bought a bunch of ADG brass for my 7 SAUM. Heard that is as good as Lapua.

[Karl Blanchard]

Basically what others have said. Internal case capacity,  concentric necks, etc. Lapua and peterson are kings of the hill. Adg and norma, then everyone else.

Current example is a 250pc bag of peterson 28 nosler brass. 1.8gr weight variance between all 250 pieces.

Last batch of nosler 280ai brass (50ct) 14gr variance.

200pc of lapua 6.5x284 (2 different lots) .8gr of weight variance.

[Karl Blanchard]

Just stopped at cabelas looking for case lube.....

[D-Rock425]

Just stopped at cabelas looking for case lube.....

see a ton of it on Westside as well.

[buggy]

Well now my head hurts from all of the information and it sounds like I need to check out the 6.8 Western as well.

Regarding all of the recoil comments, my main reasoning is that I need to practice a lot to improve my ability. I realize that when shooting an animal it doesn't really matter. (I don't think I've ever felt recoil when shooting an animal) My 300 WSM is a Sako 85 Finnlite so it is great to carry but brutal to shoot. So I'm not opposed to some recoil as long as it's less than what I have. I realize I'll have to sacrifice some weight to achieve this.

[b23]

Since you already have a 6.5CM and factory ammo is a requirement the 6.8 Western would be one of the best choices, largely, because as others have pointed out there always seems to be 6.8 Western ammo on the shelves.  Yesterday when I strolled through the ammo aisle at Sportsman's they had a shelf full of 6.8 Western ammo and it wasn't even outrageously priced.

[buggy]

Reading through all of the comments it appears there is a 7mm camp and a 28 nosler camp so naturally I search google and this video popped up. I thought the energy difference was interesting. I don't think this settles any debates but was still cool to see.

[hunter399]

Reading through all of the comments it appears there is a 7mm camp and a 28 nosler camp so naturally I search google and this video popped up. I thought the energy difference was interesting. I don't think this settles any debates but was still cool to see.

I watch his channel too.
He isn't to bad on explaining it all.
But if we talk factory or handloader
Doesn't matter 28 nosler is gonna put a beating to the ol 7 mag.
Case capacity is king .
With that said.
I have used h1000 reloading 7 mag before.
Not sure why he didn't use the same powder for both.
But it wouldn't matter cause capacity wins the day.
Same length barrel would of gave the 28 even more of an edge in the video too.

[buggy]

Reading through all of the comments it appears there is a 7mm camp and a 28 nosler camp so naturally I search google and this video popped up. I thought the energy difference was interesting. I don't think this settles any debates but was still cool to see.

I watch his channel too.
He isn't to bad on explaining it all.
But if we talk factory or handloader
Doesn't matter 28 nosler is gonna put a beating to the ol 7 mag.
Case capacity is king .
With that said.
I have used h1000 reloading 7 mag before.
Not sure why he didn't use the same powder for both.
But it wouldn't matter cause capacity wins the day.
Same length barrel would of gave the 28 even more of an edge in the video too.

I agree that the comparison could have been better but it makes it pretty clear to a novice like me that 170 lbs of energy is actually a lot.  I never would have suspected that.

[Stein]

Many people say 1500 ft lbs is a good guide for an elk bullet, so if you have another 170 available, the effective distance goes out a noticeable amount.  That obviously works for whatever minimum energy you want.

[huntnphool]

Just stopped at cabelas looking for case lube.....

 And there is the other reason the 6mm Creedmoor interests me!

[M_ray]

7wsm for me and love it! I've also shot 7mm & 300wm over the years but if I were looking right now I'd look hard at 280AI or 6.5prc. The 280AI is high on my list of next purchases, the older I get the more I'm leaning towards a lighter gun and non-magnum round that has the similar coefficients of these rounds that are mentioned here. I carried a 12pound 7wsm around this year for 19 days straight and it gets old quick, that is when you're a geezer like me. 

[M_ray]

Wow after watching that video if energy is what youre looking for no question that 28 nosler has to be at the top of the list!!! the rest of the ballistics are not a huge difference but man o man the energy sure is.

[Karl Blanchard]

That video was a poor representation of what the actual potentials are either.

You just need to lighten that wsm up M. The 7wsm is everything the 6.8 western wants to be. Definitely one of my favorite .284's! Its a shame the industry never got behind it with factory ammo and quality brass options.

[M_ray]

That video was a poor representation of what the actual potentials are either.

You just need to lighten that wsm up M. The 7wsm is everything the 6.8 western wants to be. Definitely one of my favorite .284's! Its a shame the industry never got behind it with factory ammo and quality brass options.

  I hear ya but I dont want to touch a thing on that 7wsm cause its sooooo acurate. I can loose a pound and a half if I want to loose the bi-pod and strap but I was lucky I had the bi-pod this year. Also lucky for me I have a pile of brass and h-1000 for the wsm.