Commission Meeting - August 2023

[timberfaller]

Well, I see "The Center for Bio-diversity" lawyers ran circles around the WDFW and the commission.  Spring Bear is denied because killing bears in the spring means killing mama and the clubs will starve.

Warned people years ago about this group of Eco-terroist,  but they have money and stupidity(aka: politicians) behind them!

https://610kona.com/petition-to-return-spring-bear-hunting-in-washington-denied/

[Skyvalhunter]

A lawsuit needs to be filed against the WDFW for discrimination against hunters and the desire that the bear population needs to be kept in check

[hughjorgan]

A lawsuit needs to be filed against the WDFW for discrimination against hunters and the desire that the bear population needs to be kept in check

WDFW isn’t the problem the commission is.

Everyone should be supporting the sportsman alliance who is going to be filing lawsuits against the commissioners.

[fishngamereaper]

A lawsuit needs to be filed against the WDFW for discrimination against hunters and the desire that the bear population needs to be kept in check

I would suspect that a substantial portion of wdfw is getting tired of the rouge commission. If this keeps up 60 percent of wdfw will be out of a job in the next 5 years or re branded as climate change officer's tasked with cleaning pit toilets and gathering spotted frog crap to test as biofuel options..

[Mtnwalker]

A lawsuit needs to be filed against the WDFW for discrimination against hunters and the desire that the bear population needs to be kept in check

I would suspect that a substantial portion of wdfw is getting tired of the rouge commission. If this keeps up 60 percent of wdfw will be out of a job in the next 5 years or re branded as climate change officer's tasked with cleaning pit toilets and gathering spotted frog crap to test as biofuel options..

I'm not sure about that. I was just talking with a family member who was with them for about 10 years in fisheries and left last year, he said in that 10 years it went from most of his co-workers being hunters and fishermen to almost none. WDFW itself is being over taken by granola preservationists from the ground up, it's not just the commission

[James]

Can someone tell me where in the meeting they proposed to make elk hunting in wa draw only?

I caught the bear and cougar "decoupling" from other fall season settings, and the bear "Whataboutism" so they can take those from us, but I missed the elk discussion.

Thank you

[buckfvr]

A lawsuit needs to be filed against the WDFW for discrimination against hunters and the desire that the bear population needs to be kept in check

I would suspect that a substantial portion of wdfw is getting tired of the rouge commission. If this keeps up 60 percent of wdfw will be out of a job in the next 5 years or re branded as climate change officer's tasked with cleaning pit toilets and gathering spotted frog crap to test as biofuel options..

I'm not sure about that. I was just talking with a family member who was with them for about 10 years in fisheries and left last year, he said in that 10 years it went from most of his co-workers being hunters and fishermen to almost none. WDFW itself is being over taken by granola preservationists from the ground up, it's not just the commission

The take over has been in process for a long time. What/who remains of the give a darn wdfw employees are either in the job preservation mode hanging on until retirement or trying to find a graceful exit.  It seems as though no one will speak against wdfw from inside, but there does seem to be some ill will passed around after folks leave wdfw.  The job has become so intentionally politicized that it is/should be distasteful to anyone NOT on board with current policy which is anti everything.

[Deserthunter2016]

I don’t mean to hijack this thread, but how does a person get involved outside of sending emails via outfits like Howls for wildlife and so on. Actually getting involved and supporting in a more impactful way?


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[nwwanderer]

Most of the impact will be on you not them as you attend their meetings.  Not easy and time consuming.  Not trying to discourage and any sane voice is a positive, thanks for stepping up!!

[BlackRiverTaxidermy]

Can someone tell me where in the meeting they proposed to make elk hunting in wa draw only?

I caught the bear and cougar "decoupling" from other fall season settings, and the bear "Whataboutism" so they can take those from us, but I missed the elk discussion.

Thank you

It was day three in the meetings (Saturday). They were talking with their lead bio about the game management plan and reg setting for the next three years. He replied that they would not have the studies done in time for their decisions in October to which several of the commissioners (Rowland and Smith) stated they didn't need the study to make a decision on bears and cats.

Thursday was the day they spoke about the elk draw system, they were speaking with a bio, and they made the statement that they may look into limiting elk hunting to draw system. The bio replied that he is not aware of any Washington herds where that is a consideration for management, but they replied that they still wanted to have that as a consideration. It was following a conversation about avian flu concerns.

[James]

Can someone tell me where in the meeting they proposed to make elk hunting in wa draw only?

I caught the bear and cougar "decoupling" from other fall season settings, and the bear "Whataboutism" so they can take those from us, but I missed the elk discussion.

Thank you

It was day three in the meetings (Saturday). They were talking with their lead bio about the game management plan and reg setting for the next three years. He replied that they would not have the studies done in time for their decisions in October to which several of the commissioners (Rowland and Smith) stated they didn't need the study to make a decision on bears and cats.

Thursday was the day they spoke about the elk draw system, they were speaking with a bio, and they made the statement that they may look into limiting elk hunting to draw system. The bio replied that he is not aware of any Washington herds where that is a consideration for management, but they replied that they still wanted to have that as a consideration. It was following a conversation about avian flu concerns.

Thank you, just listened to it

The reassurance that they "may not" look into making blacktail deer draw only was not comforting at all.

[hunter399]

I know this won't sit well in anybody's belly.

Most likely the whole state will be draw hunting for big game at some point.
Easy way to raise profits,with less opportunities.
Just saying,It's been talked about for years and years.

[Scruffy]

My question is, why are non residents of Washington allowed to comment on our hunting rules and seasons?  Non residents hunters just need to abide by the seasons the WDFW set, they shouldn't have a say just as when we go to their state.  But it's not out of state hunters I am concerned about.  It is the Non resident ANTI hunting people, why are they allowed to have a say in what goes on here.  It should be for residents only and a person should have to register showing residency before being allowed to comment at the meetings.  We would still be outnumbered but it would be a lot closer playing field if it were only residents.

[highcountry_hunter]

My question is, why are non residents of Washington allowed to comment on our hunting rules and seasons?  Non residents hunters just need to abide by the seasons the WDFW set, they shouldn't have a say just as when we go to their state.  But it's not out of state hunters I am concerned about.  It is the Non resident ANTI hunting people, why are they allowed to have a say in what goes on here.  It should be for residents only and a person should have to register showing residency before being allowed to comment at the meetings.  We would still be outnumbered but it would be a lot closer playing field if it were only residents.

Agreed, but I don’t know how they’d regulate this especially when it it comes to the zoom meetings. The idea of having to have a Washington state identification sounds grand but the government moves slowly, it would cost them time and money to come up with something like that.


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[buckfvr]

They (opposing orgs) solicit out of state support for their agendas and encourage comments much in the same manner as the e-mails you get about gun regs from other states that need "your" support.