Thanks Biden

[GASoline71]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

That sighting in '96 might be the one spotted near Rockport.

I like how they say "as a result of aggressive hunting practices".  From who??? Grizz has never been open in WA as far as I know.  Even at the turn of the 19th century.  Totally misleading.

Gary

[Special T]

Grizzly bears have back and forth between Canada and the Pasayten wilderness for a long time. A silver arrow Bowman member and past member here say tagged frizz hunting in this area. When encountering a USFWS employee he told them they watched a large frizz for quite some time. When the USFWS employee said we don't have any, he replied funny It had a big hump on its shoulder and an ear tag with a number. The USFW employee became real interested asking what the number was.

The Pasayten river has several valleys that open to the north and ridge out to the south. Look at a map. The Fed's lie about it because the bears exist in this state at least part of the year in Wa. They do so in places that are hard to access and not easily seen by the public. Probably the best place for them. I'm of the opinion that folks should work hard to expose this truth to help derail this nonsense.

[LDennis24]

Meanwhile just to the North...

There's so much good habitat bears are moving into town!

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7020555

[LDennis24]

And this...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/grizzly-bears-human-interactions-1.6994167

[mountainman]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

Ive seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

[jackelope]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

I be seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

I’m not questioning any cascades grizzly sightings from 20-30 years ago. I was responding to his question regarding recent sightings. That seems to have been missed by a few questioning my comment. Are you aware of any recent sightings of them in the last … let’s say 5 years? There have been a few in the NE recently…. this year. I’m aware that they’ve been seen in the Cascades 20 years ago.

[mountainman]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

I be seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

I’m not questioning any cascades grizzly sightings from 20-30 years ago. I was responding to his question regarding recent sightings. That seems to have been missed by a few questioning my comment. Are you aware of any recent sightings of them in the last … let’s say 5 years? There have been a few in the NE recently…. this year. I’m aware that they’ve been seen in the Cascades 20 years ago.

Last 10 years, yes..
None in the last 5, but haven’t been in the area or around those that spend time there. Life has been busy. But yes, I’m sure they are still there👍

[BeerBugler]

Topics are merged and under bear hunting for now. Try to keep this on topic and not get too political.

The Federal government is forcing an apex predator on its citizenry. How is that not political and why wouldn’t we discuss it? Things are getting strange around here.

[fishngamereaper]

The States not going to acknowledge sightings in the last few years because that would go against the narrative of the "need" for reintroduction.

I saw one 96/97 in the Alpine lks. Took pics and talked to a State bio who told me with a wink and a nod there are no grizzlies in WA. Didn't want to impart fear into the crest hiking crowds.

I know one was seen by reputable people in the chiwawa valley 10-12 year's ago
Saw pretty convincing pics from up by Tiffany mnt from about 5 years ago.
Then you have the verified one in whatcom co last year.

This whole idea of " reintroduction" is insanity. There's no barrier keeping them out. Or in.
If they wanted to inhabit our State in greater numbers they would of a long time ago.

[mountainman]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

I be seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

I’m not questioning any cascades grizzly sightings from 20-30 years ago. I was responding to his question regarding recent sightings. That seems to have been missed by a few questioning my comment. Are you aware of any recent sightings of them in the last … let’s say 5 years? There have been a few in the NE recently…. this year. I’m aware that they’ve been seen in the Cascades 20 years ago.

Since you agree grizz were in the north cascades 10-20-30 years ago, but aren’t now, what reason do you attribute that too?
Maybe people don’t want to report them for certain reasons. Or they do report sighting, but that’s as far as it goes and given no acknowledgment maybe?

[GOcougsHunter]

This whole idea of " reintroduction" is insanity. There's no barrier keeping them out. Or in.
If they wanted to inhabit our State in greater numbers they would of a long time ago.

This is truth.  My brain hurts when I think of the amount of money, time and resources which are going to be spent on this.

[Stein]

Not to mention the people that will die as a result of it.

[pianoman9701]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

I be seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

I’m not questioning any cascades grizzly sightings from 20-30 years ago. I was responding to his question regarding recent sightings. That seems to have been missed by a few questioning my comment. Are you aware of any recent sightings of them in the last … let’s say 5 years? There have been a few in the NE recently…. this year. I’m aware that they’ve been seen in the Cascades 20 years ago.

Since you agree grizz were in the north cascades 10-20-30 years ago, but aren’t now, what reason do you attribute that too?
Maybe people don’t want to report them for certain reasons. Or they do report sighting, but that’s as far as it goes and given no acknowledgment maybe?

After Jackelope posted his comment, I couldn't find news of any sightings after the one he posted. I get what he's saying.

[jackelope]

Topics are merged and under bear hunting for now. Try to keep this on topic and not get too political.

The Federal government is forcing an apex predator on its citizenry. How is that not political and why wouldn’t we discuss it? Things are getting strange around here.

We are discussing it.

[jackelope]

From the article in the original OP's post: "According to the announcement, grizzly bears occupied the North Cascades and served as an "essential part of the ecosystem" for thousands of years. However, in the 20th century, as a result of aggressive hunting practices, the species was driven into near extinction and the last confirmed sighting of a grizzly bear in the North Cascades ecosystem was in 1996."

Am I wrong in thinking that grizzlies have been sighted recently?

Those recent grizzlies, as well as I can remember, have not been in the cascades.

I be seen 3, 2 in the Pasayten, one in the valley bottom along the Methow. Late 70’s mid 80’s.
They are and have been there.

I’m not questioning any cascades grizzly sightings from 20-30 years ago. I was responding to his question regarding recent sightings. That seems to have been missed by a few questioning my comment. Are you aware of any recent sightings of them in the last … let’s say 5 years? There have been a few in the NE recently…. this year. I’m aware that they’ve been seen in the Cascades 20 years ago.

Since you agree grizz were in the north cascades 10-20-30 years ago, but aren’t now, what reason do you attribute that too?
Maybe people don’t want to report them for certain reasons. Or they do report sighting, but that’s as far as it goes and given no acknowledgment maybe?

First and foremost, I’m with you on your opinion of grizzlies here. 
Im not a grizzly bear expert and I’ve only ever seen one in the woods in my life so I’m not going to pretend I’m an authority on grizzly bear biology. I’ll make an amateur hour guess that they’re not here by the dozen because there’s no food for them. The habitat in those remote places is there for them. I’m not sure what other reasons there would be, again, because I’m not a biologist or otherwise knowledgeable with the whole grizzly bear thing.

I’ll also add that I’m not saying at all that they aren’t there now. All I said that started you in on me over this was the recent sightings that made the news here were not in the cascades. They were in the NE.