WDFW Commissioners back on the gas

[MADMAX]

Welcome to Washington now bend over and take it like a man.
 What a bunch of crap.

[BULLBLASTER]

Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around there's some dumb*** trying to give us more regulations. I saw this years ago when they first implemented cougar tags. Everybody always has to have a new law. They try a. point restriction in Eastern Washington for whitetails, that went over like a ton of crap.

I wish the apr in NE would come back. 

[teanawayslayer]

Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around there's some dumb*** trying to give us more regulations. I saw this years ago when they first implemented cougar tags. Everybody always has to have a new law. They try a. point restriction in Eastern Washington for whitetails, that went over like a ton of crap.

[trophyhunt]

Bring on the east west deer tags. Our herds for all species are long past the point of it being a complete free for all.

The only issue I could see is if implemented like elk, the vast majority of folks are gonna stick to east side due to special permit eligibility.  I may have to take up blacktail hunting if that's the case

I actually say go a step further and make them species specific. 

Agreed I think having to choose a species of deer is what will help reduce pressure on our deer herds.

fix the predator problem, that is the answer NOT more restrictions for F’s sake. 

[bigtex]

The east/west deer tag proposal is a citizen petition that was submitted by the NE WA Wildlife Group.

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[TommyH]

Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around Yeah let's make more laws divide everything up so they can eat away at it. How about we just try to protect what we've got. It seems like every time we turn around there's some dumb*** trying to give us more regulations. I saw this years ago when they first implemented cougar tags. Everybody always has to have a new law. They try a. point restriction in Eastern Washington for whitetails, that went over like a ton of crap.

I wish the apr in NE would come back. 

Absolutely, when it was implemented, soon after we seen the difference that was happening, whether that was to the apr, or decent winters/easy spring, Pre bluetounge die off.. or less predators at the time it was noticeably more older age class of bucks, it was a good time to hunt here, and I wish we could be back to them numbers and age structure.

[dreamingbig]

The east/west deer tag proposal is a citizen petition that was submitted by the NE WA Wildlife Group.

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Who is the NE WA wildlife group?  Any members on here?


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[hughjorgan]

The east/west deer tag proposal is a citizen petition that was submitted by the NE WA Wildlife Group.

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Who is the NE WA wildlife group?  Any members on here?


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Pretty sure it is the same group that lobbied to get the 4pt APR in the NE.

[TriggerMike]

The east/west deer tag isn't gonna do crap. Just another result of decreased opportunity for hunters due to too many predators. This will be negligible in helping the herds and once this goes through it'll never change back.

[James]

What I find is fascinating about this thread, while I don't like the East/West thing and I know some do, that is not the terrifying stuff on the docket for next week and yet East/West deer is what you guys want to talk about.

The devil is at the door, anti's are trying to get rid of fishing, hunting and trapping, and we are bickering about East/West deer.

The conservation policy, wolf, and cougar items on this meeting are the top priorities.

We NEED to focus on those.


Prediction: The new conservation policy will be the same as the last, but they carve out tribal and non tribal.

This would be a huge blow, right now anti's are an existential threat, and we need to come together with our Tribal brothers to fight these soyboys that are trying to take our state from us.

[trophyhunt]

James,  you are correct.  And agreeing with this change I feel is going along with the Antis

[Karl Blanchard]

James,  you are correct.  And agreeing with this change I feel is going along with the Antis

But it's a hunting group that brought the petition

To James's comment, we are all watching those other topics closely. We've discussed them endlessly already. The east west topic is just a new one.

The wolf briefing is just a status update. There is no management changes happening so I don't think that portion of the meeting is worth getting riled up over.

Conservation policy status report should be monitored but the wording in the schedule doesn't bring me to believe that any decision making is happening. 

Cougar and bear season setting should be the main focus.

[James]

James,  you are correct.  And agreeing with this change I feel is going along with the Antis

But it's a hunting group that brought the petition

Yes, but just ask yourself if the Anti's would want this? They are pretty pragmatic and very astute at seeing opportunities to divide and conquer.

There are plenty of sportsmen's groups I see giving ground to Anti's. I like to flyfish, but man wade into a few of those groups and you would think you were at a PETA rally.

If data/modeling is presented that actually shows this would have a significant effect on our deer populations, Ill change my mind.  Until then...

I really feel like burden of proof needs to be on the proposer here. 

[callturner]

Ha, don't get me started on the fly fishing. I grew up fishing the Spokane river. Most everybody I grew up with fish the Spokane river period now it's fly fishing barbless hooks and no bait. Because of the fly fishing club saying supposedly that the red banded trout which I think is just a rainbow trout needs to be saved. Just another area shut down for kids and old people. The morons at the Fish and Wildlife department told me last year that all of the northern Pike in long lake which is the extension end of the Spokane river. Came down from Coeur d'Alene lake. The only problem is is nobody's ever heard of them being in between the long lake dam in the upriver dam and Post Falls. I'm not too impressed with the Washington state fisheries department. Now we've had about 100,000 dead fish at the base of long lake dam that nobody can figure out how they died or at least they won't tell us. Enough said

[TriggerMike]

No part of me believes the petition from this hunting group has anything to do with increasing herd numbers. They want to decrease the amount of hunters in the NE corner so there's less competition for them and in doing so will give the antis a huge win and likely momentum to take more. These guys are cutting off their nose to spite their face and I believe it's selfish and will harm our cause.