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drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« on: April 15, 2024, 10:14:08 AM »
been hunting 560 GMU for years, cow tags have been reduced to this year i dont even see a drawing for modern firearm.. glad i have all those points paid in~ what BS!!!
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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2024, 12:25:16 PM »
Most units and tags numbers have been in a heavy decline last 8 plus years  no surprise

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2024, 12:29:12 PM »
All the units around Mt. St. Helens had cow permits eliminated this year. Along with archery general season antlerless season.

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2024, 01:41:44 PM »
Most units and tags numbers have been in a heavy decline last 8 plus years  no surprise

Have the elk herds been in a similar decline that matches the opportunity loss, or have tags been reduced for no reason?
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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2024, 02:46:40 PM »
Elk numbers are down due to hoof rot.

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2024, 03:28:43 PM »
Most units and tags numbers have been in a heavy decline last 8 plus years  no surprise

Have the elk herds been in a similar decline that matches the opportunity loss, or have tags been reduced for no reason?

per the game status report  https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/02474/wdfw02474.pdf


Population monitoring indicates that the surveyed portion of the Mount St. Helens elk herd has
declined by approximately two-thirds over the past 15 years. While the Department’s objective
within the Mount St. Helens Elk Herd Plan did call for a reduction of approximately one-third, the
population is now significantly below that target. Accordingly, opportunities to harvest antlerless
elk have been significantly reduced in recent years. Additionally, estimates of calf:cow ratios
during this period suggest calf recruitment rates are at a level that should promote population
growth or stability. Despite reductions in antlerless hunting opportunities and apparently robust
calf recruitment, the population has not shown any indication of reversing its downward trend
Introduce someone new to hunting this year.

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2024, 04:03:15 PM »
LOL how dare they reduce tags where the herds are hurting….

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2024, 04:47:15 PM »
been hunting 560 GMU for years, cow tags have been reduced to this year i dont even see a drawing for modern firearm.. glad i have all those points paid in~ what BS!!!

If anyone needs a view of uneducated selfishness………

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2024, 05:49:50 PM »
They should have reduced those cow tags years ago

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2024, 06:12:10 PM »
They should have reduced those cow tags years ago

Due to hoof rot and piss poor management several years ago when there were literally thousands of cow tags handed out over about a 3 year period.  :bash:

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2024, 06:13:54 PM »
Last year was the worst I saw for elk counts in almost 60 years of hunting and recreating in the units between Ryderwood and Mt. St. Helens. :bash:

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2024, 06:44:51 PM »
The permit numbers suck. Get rid of all cow permits for 5 years an go to a 3 point minimum bull over the counter on the east side. An watch the herd go nuts. This state knows nothing about herd management.  Just my 2 cents. Harvesting cows an spikes should be illegal.

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2024, 09:41:38 PM »
been hunting 560 GMU for years, cow tags have been reduced to this year i dont even see a drawing for modern firearm.. glad i have all those points paid in~ what BS!!!

Yep, all cow tags anywhere near St. Helens are gone. Sad.

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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2024, 06:46:26 AM »
All the units around Mt. St. Helens had cow permits eliminated this year. Along with archery general season antlerless season.


yeah but they still have youth tags and i bet master hunter tags too.... seems to me that it should be all or nothing rather than group selection.. would rather see the over 65 guys get the "only" chances as their trips in the woods seem to slip away too soon....
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Re: drawing tags reduced/eliminated?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2024, 06:52:09 AM »
All the units around Mt. St. Helens had cow permits eliminated this year. Along with archery general season antlerless season.


yeah but they still have youth tags and i bet master hunter tags too.... seems to me that it should be all or nothing rather than group selection.. would rather see the over 65 guys get the "only" chances as their trips in the woods seem to slip away too soon....

I see 5 youth antlerless elk permits for 560, that's it.

 


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