Tulalip tribe effort to lock public out of public land

[GASoline71]

FOI request for any correspondence between the FS and the tribe. And between FS employees.
See who agreed to what and what steps where skipped.
Sorry but politicians won't help.
FS is screwed up and local politicians are bought and paid for by tribes already.

Just a heads up FOIA requests are about 4 to 6 months out.  I'm still waiting on FOIA requests I filed around June. Have been told numerous times that there have been overwhelming numbers of requests coming in (federal and state) and they are extrememly behind.

Gary

[bigtex]

FOI request for any correspondence between the FS and the tribe. And between FS employees.
See who agreed to what and what steps where skipped.
Sorry but politicians won't help.
FS is screwed up and local politicians are bought and paid for by tribes already.

Just a heads up FOIA requests are about 4 to 6 months out.  I'm still waiting on FOIA requests I filed around June. Have been told numerous times that there have been overwhelming numbers of requests coming in (federal and state) and they are extrememly behind.

Gary

Heritage Foundation has been flooding federal agencies with FOIA requests the past couple months.

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[Meathunter06]

Id be hauling my excavator up there and digging it out or torching it down

It's time we start dealing with these parasites

[lewy]

Amen.
And to go along with that some vigilante justice of these pos humans that the courts wont prosecute and deal with, we need to clean up our country its a mess.

[Tbar]

Id be hauling my excavator up there and digging it out or torching it down

It's time we start dealing with these parasites

Who are the parasites?

[Tbar]

Amen.
And to go along with that some vigilante justice of these pos humans that the courts wont prosecute and deal with, we need to clean up our country its a mess.

Who are the POS humans you're referring to?

[Tbar]

Feel free to fact check any of the following.  The forest service has roughly 30% of the o&m budget for a failing infrastructure.  Add to that non tribal societal degradation of nearly all public land (and many non public bigs) and land management gets considerably more expensive.  The USFS does not manage lands in a way that is conducive to society at large vehicular access. This is nearly impossible on a scale of MBSNF or GPNF or others without timber production.  So constriction will continue to happen.  Mix in budget restructuring and less site(district) specific positions and it gets more complex.  One could definitely look through a different lens and think Tulalip tribes are stepping up to protect and steward public lands to the benefit of all. There is not an precautionary element of access just vehicular access on failing infrastructure.

[Tbar]

It will not be removed. We continue to lose access to the lands we all pay for to special interest groups who live in the USA.
The insanity should stop. They live in America. We didn't occupy Japan because it wasn't on America soil. These groups live in the USA.
They lost.....We won. That should be the end of it.

No More Unlimited Hunting Rights
No More Unlimited Access To Our Lands
No More Locking Us Out Of Our Lands

It's Time These Groups Abide By the Laws That We All Adhere To !!!!

Very uninformed post to be nice. It was not a win loss situation. It was a peace time treaty based on settlement of many disputed landscapes.  I can go way deeper but feel you probably have your mind made up and facts matter very little to you by reading the quoted post.

[Tbar]

For those truly interested in changing access and habitat for the better I can make a friendly suggestion.  There is a current process to amend the northwest forest plan.  Although there will not be an opportunity to adjust the lsr boundaries that have not accomplished their desired intent,  there may be an opportunity to change what's allowed within the lsr designation.  Expanding opportunity for harvest within amp and lsr could serve a multitude of benefits.

[Alan K]

I'd bet there would be less heartburn if the gate was closed to everyone or open to everyone. The double standard is where people get upset with these things. Especially when one group advocates for gates to close out 99% of people knowing they'll still have access. 

[tracksoup]

For those truly interested in changing access and habitat for the better I can make a friendly suggestion.  There is a current process to amend the northwest forest plan.  Although there will not be an opportunity to adjust the lsr boundaries that have not accomplished their desired intent,  there may be an opportunity to change what's allowed within the lsr designation.  Expanding opportunity for harvest within amp and lsr could serve a multitude of benefits.

Huh?

[fishngamereaper]

So tribes can now gate land they see fit...in the name of stewardship and protection from over use by legal user groups... because the FS is broke... interesting concept.

Who gets the keys...

NVRMND

[Tbar]

So tribes can now gate land they see fit...in the name of stewardship and protection from over use by legal user groups... because the FS is broke... interesting concept.

Who gets the keys...

NVRMND

Oversimplification of complex issues.  Underfunded federal agencies need funding.

[Tbar]

I'd bet there would be less heartburn if the gate was closed to everyone or open to everyone. The double standard is where people get upset with these things. Especially when one group advocates for gates to close out 99% of people knowing they'll still have access. 

Does weyco open gates in accordance with the tax breaks they receive?

[HntnFsh]

I'd bet there would be less heartburn if the gate was closed to everyone or open to everyone. The double standard is where people get upset with these things. Especially when one group advocates for gates to close out 99% of people knowing they'll still have access. 

Does weyco open gates in accordance with the tax breaks they receive?

Not sure where your going with that comment as its early and I need a lot more coffee this morning.
But Weyco owns their lands. They have more say in how the land is used because of that. The lands being talked about arent owned by the tribe, so why should they be able to dictate land use?