8 different special apps pools!

[WDFW-SUX]

I want to know WHO dreamed up this cockumayme Idea

I have a suspect...

[bobcat]

It might not be that bad. I'll have to think about it some. The main thing I don't like is that those with lots of points built up will have those points carried over into the antlerless permit pools, which greatly decreases the odds for guys who have been applying for relatively easy to draw antlerless permits, and therefore not building up points. (like me) Oh well, as I said, at least now I can begin to build up points for a good bull elk permit and continue to draw cow permits while I wait. Another thing that sucks about this is that a person could draw a cow permit and a bull permit in the same year, and one of those will go to waste.

[boneaddict]

Yep, there's Scott on his last wolf count

[bobcat]

I missed this on my first read;

"It is anticipated that the additional revenue would be used to increase hunter access to private property."

That would be nice but for some reason I'm not buying it.

Same here, I figured that was just put in there to reduce complaints.

[NWBREW]

. Another thing that sucks about this is that a person could draw a cow permit and a bull permit in the same year, and one of those will go to waste.

I  hadn't thought about that. So if you were to draw a cow and bull permit.....they will both drop to zero the next year.

[whacker1]

Well so much for only making significant changes every 3 years    This one is going to take some serious pouring over when the regs come out.   So instead of 5 pools (deer, elk, sheep, goat, and moose)  We will know have 3 more for a total of 8, but that doesn't sound right, because I counted more than 3 (5 + cow, doe, quality elk, quality deer, second deer = isn't that 10.  

Which means $5 more person x 3 = or $15

or $5 more per person if x 5 if you use my math at $25  assuming that we apply for every application possible.

Seems like they took a complex system and added additional layers of complexity and frustration.

the only way this works is if there 8 - 10 pools and in the ones that overlap (deer for example) that you are only allowed to apply for one style of deer tag (buck or doe or quality)  not all 3.  However, this is not the way it was explained.

[Lowedog]

So from what I am reading here is that all of you guys would buy applications for every hunt possible?  I know I wouldn't.  I would only apply for quality hunts.  I think that a lot of meat hunters would not buy applications for hard to draw hunts.

I don't like the idea of a persons accrued points being across the board.  Don't know what the logistics would be but wonder if they could make it so that you had to choose where your points were to go.  

As for having a state wide elk tag I think that would make the quality hunts, especially east side, that much tougher to draw.

[SkookumHntr]

Why wouldnt a meat hunter spend 5 more bucks for the chance to draw a trophy bull tag? I would if I was a meat hunter, and hell I would even apply for cow tags now that it dont effact my bull points.

[Woodchuck]

Exactly my point

[whacker1]

Why wouldnt a meat hunter spend 5 more bucks for the chance to draw a trophy bull tag? I would if I was a meat hunter, and hell I would even apply for cow tags now that it dont effact my bull points.

Kind of what i was thinking.  It won't be true of everybody, but it will for a lot of folks.  Saving money from out of state tags to have an opportunity to fill the freezer?  

[Lowedog]

There was a post started recently where everyone was complaining about how much it costs these days for license, tags and permits so I assume that most people think it is too much to spend in the first place.  So my thinking is that a lot of people will either be like me and not have any desire to shoot a cow or doe and a lot of others may feel  the other way around.  So why would they spend an extra $5 to apply for a tag that has the odds of drawing every 10 years or so?

[SkookumHntr]

-Not a single traditional meat hunter will draw next year, with so many people with 10 plus pts in that pool now, why the hell wouldnt we fill are freezers, if I will have 15pts for meat hunts and it dont effact my Trophy Bull pts! And the regular meat hunters that draw every 3rd year or so my never draw again with so many names in the hat now. Unreal

[bowtech721]

I guess im with you guys and can see no possible way that that proposal would INCREASE draw odds overall but it looks like theres a lot left to debate from the bit that i read on here... i can see like a zillion more questions that there arent answers too yet, hopefully it doesnt turn out as bad as it sounds right now...

[Lowedog]

-Not a single traditional meat hunter will draw next year, with so many people with 10 plus pts in that pool now, why the hell wouldnt we fill are freezers, if I will have 15pts for meat hunts and it dont effact my Trophy Bull pts! And the regular meat hunters that draw every 3rd year or so my never draw again with so many names in the hat now. Unreal

Yeah, that's the part I don't like.  Like I said earlier if they could make it where you had to choose where your points went it would even things out but then again not so many would buy both apps.  

[SkookumHntr]

-I hear ya there.