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[Red Dawg]

ya the best part about it is that we have gone from sleeping arangements all the way to stoves and not being able to *censored*. I now dont feel so bad for jacking this thread.

[archery288]

[scoyoc5]

thats funny red dog   

 

[scoyoc5]

Thanks PNWH lots of helpful info in your pm  . I'll keep ya updated...

[cohoho]

I can't use the bivy bags, too darn compacked for my liking, use Nallo 3 GT, super light and easy to set up, alittle condensation problems in extreme weather, the new models added a little more vents.  Bag - nothing but synethics as in Polar Guard, effective still when wet.... 15 degree bag, light and I can always slide into polar max top and bottoms if it gets too cold... For cooking Jet Boil, mountain houses, but I add romen and chicken and tuna in the plastic pouches versus cans for lunch and dinner, oatmeal and cereal type bar for breakfast, power bars along the way.  5 days of meals under 5 pounds.....  Pretty light traveling, tastes, it is all in the mind.....  Ate MRE's for twenty years, especially when deployed, they suck, but keep a few in boat and truck, you never know....

[EMPyre]

Just a heads up for the budget consceincious looking to get equiped.  Second Ascent in Ballard sells TONS of used BC gear at reasonable prices.  I would look to them if trying to outfit on the cheap, staff is knowledgable too.  While they are a bit more of the mountaineering/alpine camping vs. high hunt crowd knowing what works and what doesn't and being able to save a few bucks while supporting a local business to me is a good way to go.  Just a thought.  I've purchased like new climbing shoes from them in the past for half the price of REI.  It been a while since I was down there last but when I was they had many types of stoves, purifiers, bags, tents, pack, and bivys in stock.  Check them out.

[Branden]

scoyoc5 
If you use a bivy you should also bring a lightweight tarp. The bivy I would suggest is made by Tigoat. it is called the Ptarmigan Bivy. It weighs about 6 oz. and costs $90.

For a sleeping bag I would only use down. Its lighter, smaller, and warmer. I have a couple down bags and a couple synthetics and I have not used the synthetics for a while. Marmot makes a good bag that is reasonably priced. I use the Marmot Atom all summer into October. For hunting Washington I would not go with anything warmer then a 15 degree bag. If you get a bag rated for 0 degrees it is going to be to warm, and cost a lot more.

Make sure your sleeping pad is closed cell foam, it is a lot warmer then the air mattresses. If you can't sleep cause its not that comfortable then just take a couple Tylenol PM's.

If you get that bivy, with a 3oz tarp, and a Marmot Atom, and a closed cell foam pad, your weight will be about 2 pounds with those 4 items. Not to bad. Anyway good luck.

[ICEMAN]

branden, I find that many times on the first night out, I cannot get to sleep when out on the hunt, too damn excited. Might have to try that druggin' approach. Usually the second night I am out like a light from exhaustion...

[MountainWalk]

i learned this trick from an old beat up book. i just get a few big limbs broken off the tree, and break off the smaller bits with the needles and such still on em. then stick them stick down into the ground. and make like your doin shingles, overlapping, then criss crosser over. then i wrap up in my big canvas. that and i mostly bed down against deadfall. super cheap and you can make the bough bed much softer than any pad.

[actionshooter]

For a sleeping bag I would only use down. Its lighter, smaller, and warmer. I have a couple down bags and a couple synthetics and I have not used the synthetics for a while. Marmot makes a good bag that is reasonably priced. I use the Marmot Atom all summer into October. For hunting Washington I would not go with anything warmer then a 15 degree bag. If you get a bag rated for 0 degrees it is going to be to warm, and cost a lot more.

Make sure your sleeping pad is closed cell foam, it is a lot warmer then the air mattresses. If you can't sleep cause its not that comfortable then just take a couple Tylenol PM's.

I agree with the down as long as you aren't on the wetside during the rainy season, 3 days in the rain the down will loose its loft just from condensation, it doesn't even have to get wet, then your miserable.

 I have tried the Tylenol PM trick, works well.
 As for the closed cell foam, thats what I used to think, Try the exped downmat, it IS warmer and much more comfy  

 For a stove I'll 2nd or 3rd a jet boil, they aren't the lightest but they are nice!

 For crapping in the woods, I'm a lot happier if I get to everyday     I mix up the food a little with noodles, mountain house and walk down the instant food isle at Safeway theres a ton of backpacker food thats cheaper, just add water I always take instant mashed taters also.

[MountainWalk]

its not the tastiest, but for me the best thing goin. not alot of trash, healthy, light.
doesnt back you up. and doesnt have much bulk.  nothing beats oatmeal.

[actionshooter]

its not the tastiest, but for me the best thing goin. not alot of trash, healthy, light.
doesnt back you up. and doesnt have much bulk.  nothing beats oatmeal.

I do a lot of instant oatmeal too. The little packets are real handy

[Red Dawg]

oatmeal!!!!

[billythekidrock]

If you can't sleep cause its not that comfortable then just take a couple Tylenol PM's.

That works for me, but sometimes it makes me feel groggy in the morning so I usually take Valerian root instead.

[actionshooter]

If you can't sleep cause its not that comfortable then just take a couple Tylenol PM's.

That works for me, but sometimes it makes me feel groggy in the morning so I usually take Valerian root instead.

You will have to show me that sometime