Bumping unit outfitter?

[Opportunist]

Has anyone used Chinook pass outfitters or Indian Creek outfitters for a drop camp or meat packer in the Bumping unit. I'm putting in for Goose prairie and not sure if I want to deal with the hassle of dragging our hayburners over, besides I only have two and only one is good to pack with the other one needs a bullet.

If you have what was the quality of their stock? How was the business transaction? Did they do what they said they were going to do? Did they check on you like they said they would? I'm a little worried about the meat, this being early bow. Were they proffesonal?  Were they flexible on camp location based on YOUR needs?

Any and all info plus overall impression of the outfitter is greatly appreciated!

[bobcat]

I can't tell you anything about those outfitters, but there is a new one that I only know about because of an ad in the back of the hunting regs this year. They are called Rugged Class Outfitters and if you go to their website it says "a division of Chinook Pass Outfitters."  Not sure what the deal is but you might try contacting them and see what they might offer. I see on their website there is no mention of drop camps or packing out meat, just fully outfitted/guided hunts. But anyway, here is the website:  http://www.ruggedclassoutfitters.com/index.html

[WDFW-SUX]

Watched there videos.................lots of guys rifle hunting without orange.....wonder if its in Washington

[Opportunist]

Thanks Bob, Rugged class works with Chinook pass outfitters. I think they have a deal under Chinook passes wilderness permit. Rugged class only does fully guided hunts with a *censored* trophy fee after the kill, based on the score and it goes up incrementally, 250-280 is one price 281-300 is more and so on. I think for public land animals it is complete *censored*. He lures guys in with a guarantee that if you don't kill you get half off on your hunt. That's a practice that is used on game farms and africa.

Rugged class hunts outside the wilderness. We ran into his parked rigs in the areas I hunted last year on my Peaches hunt. In fact he was half blocking a road with his rig where he had plenty of room to get off the road. I wouldn't of gave much of a *censored* but the road went for another mile or so which is where I was going to jump off.
 
Ryan Hartley

[bobcat]

Well that's good to know. I surely will never do business with them then, just for the fact that they charge a trophy fee. What B.S.

[MountainWalk]

the outfitter i work for would never ever consider giving any money back for an unsuccessful hunt. ever! i would shy away from that dude, based on that and what else was said.

[MountainWalk]

now, he would give a discount for another hunt if the weather was real *censored*ty the whole hunt,, or if the guy was dissatisfied for any real legitamate reason, or if youve hunted with us more than twice.

[scoyoc5]

Mountian can you send me any info about the outfitter you guide for?

[bobcat]

Another thing I wondered about while reading through information on their website...they mention "ATV travel" and I know of very few places in any of those units where ATV use is legal. There are a couple of trails designated for ATV/jeep use but those aren't places somebody's going to want to go on a guided hunt. So I just have to wonder where is it that they are able to use ATV's. When I drew the Peaches muzzleloader bull tag a few years back I didn't even bring my 4-wheeler over there because I knew there wasn't anywhere I'd be able to legally use it.

[MountainWalk]

indian summer outfitters, inc,,, darby montana... go to the website, its pretty informative.. please get back to me and let me know what you think of it.

[MountainWalk]

i may be wrong, but from what i gather, guides and outfitters dont need to be liscensed, insured, or bonded...

[Snowman]

If your on national forest land they need to have a land use permit and have to have a master bussiness liscensed and have insurance, bonded is optiional but would reccommend it. I'd ask them if they have any of that. You can't have two affilated bussiness under one land use permit unless the guy who holds the land use permit is owner of both or the partner is named on the land use permit to. I know cause wanting to guide myself for some big game and the forest service is not giving out any land use permits in that area or my own area and not really anywhere in washington. Also call and find who from the forest service inspects their camp.

[MountainWalk]

my last post, i meant to say,, "in wa"

[MountainWalk]

i know in montana, the only way your gonna get a f-s permit is if you recieve it from another outfitter in a pre-existing area.  no new areas

[Snowman]

Right that is the only way to get a permit. There's a mandate in pretty much every state right now that there is no new permits being issued until the forest service raises the price of the permit as they are based off fair market value for the land. So they are in an internal fight with the u.s. treasure office. There's a couple of sectors of the the forest service that will have some available in 2009, but there's a long list of people wanting them including me.