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Quote from: fireweed on July 08, 2011, 08:37:02 AMhttp://tdn.com/lifestyles/article_551bcd98-a8fd-11e0-9fc9-001cc4c03286.html?mode=storyRayonier will sell 175 permits to enter its 31,000-acre Fossil Creek area from Aug. 15 through Dec. 31 for a flat $225.Hmm lets see.Rayonier access to Fossil Creek for 31,000 acres for 4.5 months = $225Hancock to access its Snoqualmie Tree Farm at 90,000 acres year round (except fire closures) = $225.I'm sorry but it seems like Rayonier is really ripping off those people buying those permits.
http://tdn.com/lifestyles/article_551bcd98-a8fd-11e0-9fc9-001cc4c03286.html?mode=storyRayonier will sell 175 permits to enter its 31,000-acre Fossil Creek area from Aug. 15 through Dec. 31 for a flat $225.
Dude I can not even read sheet like this ... we all know its coming and we still are doing nothen but reading about it ....The fricken government should step in and TAX THE LIVING FRAKEN CRAP OUT OF THEM !!!!!! and for those who have money to spend on this type of hunting are setting the stage for disaster ...and I would never support such bullsheet knowing it is going again my fellow hunters and its now taking the meaning out of what hunting is all about ... So if you go an support these dumba$$$$$$ please do not come bragging to me about it .... THIS IS BS !!!!!
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on July 08, 2011, 09:23:08 AMDude I can not even read sheet like this ... we all know its coming and we still are doing nothen but reading about it ....The fricken government should step in and TAX THE LIVING FRAKEN CRAP OUT OF THEM !!!!!! and for those who have money to spend on this type of hunting are setting the stage for disaster ...and I would never support such bullsheet knowing it is going again my fellow hunters and its now taking the meaning out of what hunting is all about ... So if you go an support these dumba$$$$$$ please do not come bragging to me about it .... THIS IS BS !!!!! Capitalism.....it sucks, doesn't it. Hunting is a privilege in this day and age and not a right like many people think. None of us like it, but if there is a way to make money off of your hobby then somebody will figure out how. I would guess that most people wouldn't go to work everyday without getting paid, so why should the timber companies open their gates without getting paid? The State has figured out how to make money off of us by raising the cost of licenses and offering like 50 different raffles (which reminds me I still need to buy a few) and permit drawings. The timber companies are doing the same thing by charging for access passes. They own the property and sadly have ever right to try and capitalize off of our hobby like everyone else.
On November 1968 the people of Washington State voted overwhelming (68%) to tax agricultural, timberlands, and other open spaces for actual use. The concern was the loss of green space to development and therefore the loss of recreation value of these lands. If you do your research and look at the advertisements, newspaper articles, and voter’s pamphlet they all claim public recreation value is a premise for the reduction in taxes. I have attached a few. This is not about government telling them what to do with their lands. This is about increasing profits at the expense of the public. Many of these landowners have closed their mills or the lands have been purchased for their long term income value. Basically this is where the money is at and they are making money. Now they are ignoring state law. If you have a problem with them charging for access then call your county and state elected officials they are the ones who are supposed to enforce the state law.If someone will explain how to insert an image I will add a few of newspaper advertisements I have located.
As soon as the tax breaks are gone, you will see massive clear cutting and big for sale signs on what was once tree growing ground. Every landowner in the state big or small can have there land classified as timber or open space, It's not really the big tax break you guy's think it is, Timber co. has instances of what we call a taking of property in which because a new law was passed what could have been logged 5 years ago they can't now but yet the co. invested money in planting back the trees and maintaing the trees but will see know return on the trees, then they can get a tax break on that ground just like anybody else. It cost lottsa money to maintain the roads and when the snow run run off washes out roads, your talkin big money. Way better than the forest circus when they have a problem road they just close it.
WDFW could nip this right in the bud if they wanted to. Hunting on forest land is really a benefit to the timber companies. Wildlife does a lot of damage to the trees and the roads.Hunting and trapping helps to minimize this damage. WDFW could tell them if you charge for access, next time you apply for a damage control permit forget it. It will never happen.Rayonier would change their tune in a minute.Of course WDFW will never do it.