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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2011, 08:54:52 AM »
so, none of our license fees go into the general fund?
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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 09:00:28 AM »
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It's a shame that we hunters have already paid for access to open state lands through our hunting licenses and need to pay again. It seems like double taxation to me.

How have hunters paid for access to DNR lands? Answer is, they haven't. Not that I agree with the Discover Pass, but saying that hunters were already paying for access to DNR lands simply is not true.

Let's just say you're correct and I'm not sure you are. DNR land is logged and products are used by private companies for sale. They should be paying for the upkeep of this public land that I'm letting them use for profit. The parking portion of our licenses formerly let us use this land. If we needed more parking passes, which I have in the past, we had to pay more money for extra passes. Is all of the money spent on the parking permits staying with WDFW and not going into DNR? Please tell me where you found this out. Thanks Bobcat.
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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 09:14:20 AM »
We do pay, we pay a fee for road maint. that goes to road maint. of all dnr land. we build our own spurs at our expense, they also have a thing called purchaser maint. of certain mainlines that everybody uses, so when you see a grader working chanches are that the timber sale purchaser is paying for it. not the taxpayer.
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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 09:21:18 AM »
The WDFW vehicle use pass is, and always has been, for WDFW lands. Not DNR.
 
DNR has never had any fees associated with the recreational use of any of their lands. Until now, with the Discover Pass, of which 8% of the revenue from that goes to DNR.
 
Pianoman, does that answer your question?


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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 09:34:03 AM »
so, none of our license fees go into the general fund?

All hunting and fishing (including commercial) fees go into the Wildlife Fund which only goes to WDFW. NONE goes to any other funds including the general fund.

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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2011, 09:47:16 AM »
The WDFW vehicle use pass is, and always has been, for WDFW lands. Not DNR.
 
DNR has never had any fees associated with the recreational use of any of their lands. Until now, with the Discover Pass, of which 8% of the revenue from that goes to DNR.
 
Pianoman, does that answer your question?

It does, thanks Bobcat and bigtex
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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2011, 09:51:08 AM »
The Discover Pass was not concieved to fund the DNR. It's a rescue-the-state-parks pass. Remember, for each pass hunters buy, the DNR only gets $2.40. (I wonder why the chief of DNR Peter Goldmark is pushing this pass so much when they get so little--The could easily only required the pass at "developed sites" per the law)  I'd gladly send the DNR their $2.40 directly--even more--and stop subsidizing the state parks with hunter dollars.

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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2011, 09:51:48 AM »
Thanks for the map link, very helpful!
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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2011, 10:56:48 PM »
funny the map does not show the pass being required for GMU 251, but when I was in the basin last weekend the roads signs said it was required

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Re: Discover Pass on DNR Lands
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2011, 07:37:14 AM »
The WDFW vehicle use pass is, and always has been, for WDFW lands. Not DNR.
 
DNR has never had any fees associated with the recreational use of any of their lands. Until now, with the Discover Pass, of which 8% of the revenue from that goes to DNR.
 
Pianoman, does that answer your question?

It does, thanks Bobcat and bigtex

If I have to pay $30 more to hunt, I'd much rather have the option of paying for a DNR pass than the Discovery Pass. I don't use state parks and, if the above posts are true and only $2.40 goes to DNR from Discovery, that's a rip. Why am I paying $27.60 for a service I never use?
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