Eye guards count?

[bobcat]

I say forken horn when describing a 2 point.  I think calling it a fork-ed horn just sounds silly.

And where in Oregon are you from, might I ask?

[gundogr]

I am probly an old-timer to most of you guys and don't consider myself an elitest. Would I like to shoot a buck with more points, bigger spread, heavier beams than smaller? fork-en right!! (I couldn't resist!) But I am kind of old school cuz my dad and grandad and all those who came before me called my first buck a forked horn even though it had a nice branch up top and about 2" eye guards!! (still haven't forgiven/forgot them that) Anyway, a 4 point bull elk with triple eye guards is a four point in my book. But a forked derned nice one at that!

[Alan K]

I call it whatever it is so that it's best described.  To me that means the points above ears generally, at least with deer.  When I think 3 point I think your front fork and a long tine in back, like most people.  If someone shot a forked horn with eye guards and told me they shot a nice 3 point, and I went over to look at it just to see a 2 point with eye guards I'd laugh at him/her. 

And this is generally with blacktails or mule deer.  Deer that don't always have eye guards, so the best way to describe them so that anyone would understand what the frame of the rack looks like is to say points above the ears followed by w/ eye guards if it applies.

And sure, a forked horn mule deer with eye guards is legal per 3 point minimum rule, but in describing it to people I wouldn't call it a 3 point, I'd call it a two point with eye guards. It describes the caliber of the animal more accurately.

[SuperDutyHunter]

In Oregon a 2 point is called a "forken horn".        

forken horn?       tee hee... he said forken!     every one knows it's a fork-ed horn!  not forked horn, but two syllables, fork-ed.   

That's just forken rediculous!

[Arteman]

When you are talking about a whitetail you count all the points.....example a 12 point buck. When you talk about muledeer or blacktail you call them 4points or 3 points or 4x4's or 2x3's with or without eyeguards.

I think your right on with this comment, I count them like the way you say about the blacktail and muledeer.  Always with whitetail you here people count all the points.  Maybe because more often then not all whitetail have eyeguards, at least compared to muledeer and especially blacktail they do.  Now what's really funny is when I here my dad count elk where he would call a 5 pt bull a 3 pt with double eyeguards or a 4 pt a fork n horn with double eyeguards, I argue with him about it constantly, he's set in his old ways though. 

[bobcat]

a 4 pt a fork n horn with double eyeguards

See! There it is! Someone who's apparently from Oregon.  A forken horn!   

[Arteman]

In Oregon a 2 point is called a "forken horn".        

Agreed, its the same in southwest Wash.  Never heard any other way from anybody here, except when somebody shoots a exceptionally big one then I've heard people jokingly say that's isn't no fork n horn, that's a 2 pt.

[3nails]

 A visual for how I've always done it. The whitetail (1st pic) I would call a 5x6 with a split eyeguard. The mule deer (2nd pic) I'd call a 4x4 with one eyeguard. The blacktail (3rd pic) I'd call a 4x4 with eyeguards. 

[huntnnw]

Yes, a 2 point with eyeguards is legal, BUT that still doesn't make it a 3 point!   

Yep

but anyone on here who says the brow doesnt count shouldnt be shooting...or they just proved what a hippocrit they are

[bobcat]

I count the eyeguards- but not as points- I count them as "eyeguards". I don't like that a 2 point with eyeguards is legal in a 3 point minimum area. Just because it has eyeguards doesn't mean it's older than a buck that has the exact same size antlers, and configuration, but minus the eyeguards.

[wreckerman5357]

I count the eyeguards- but not as points- I count them as "eyeguards". I don't like that a 2 point with eyeguards is legal in a 3 point minimum area. Just because it has eyeguards doesn't mean it's older than a buck that has the exact same size antlers, and configuration, but minus the eyeguards.

The only problem I have with shooting two points with eyeguards in 3 point or better units is that its too hard to tell if the eyeguards are big enough to count as a third point! I would have shot twice as many deer over my hunting career if it wasn't for this rule.

[Arteman]

A visual for how I've always done it. The whitetail (1st pic) I would call a 5x6 with a split eyeguard. The mule deer (2nd pic) I'd call a 4x4 with one eyeguard. The blacktail (3rd pic) I'd call a 4x4 with eyeguards. 

I don't care what you call them bucks, I'd call them all dandys for sure, nice bucks, especially like the blacktail!

[Mike450r]

I only count one side (like it should be done)  For mulies and blackies I would say 2 point with eyegaurds for example.  I only count both sides if they are not even but still break it down one side x the other side.  i.e.  2 x 3 with eye gaurds.  I never say 4 x 4 or 3 x 3 with deer,  those would be 4 point or 3 point.  Just how I learned it from my grandpa

Elk I don't break it down, all points count,  i.e 5 x 5,  6 x 6  etc....