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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2011, 11:24:04 PM »
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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #61 on: October 05, 2011, 11:07:20 AM »
 Voted long ago. What I was going to add is that I watched something called "Oregon Afield" (or Oregon Field Guide) on Channel 9 the other night  and they stated that Oregon was planning on FOUR breeding pairs to be enough.  15???WTF is with this state? WE are the smallest geographicly west of the Mississippi, and at least the 5th most populated.
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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2011, 11:35:57 AM »
Seen as the wolves coming arnt what we had here to begin with and the way they mange the game animals already  :bdid:

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2011, 12:01:50 PM »
I also voted.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2011, 12:02:15 PM »
I find Wolves fascinating and would love to see one in the wild and I would love to shoot one, just not in the lower 48, leave 'em in Canada and Alaska.
 
Another factor that really concerns me is the Wolves impact on the small heard of Woodland Caribou up in the Selkirks. I have found absolutely no information on this matter.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2011, 12:11:20 PM »
Voted.  STRONGLY NO. 


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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2011, 12:19:53 PM »
Voted strongly No!

Bringing these NON NATIVE species "back" serves no purpose for the general public, and will only serve to harm our wildlife that WDFW is suppose to be managing.  If they "must" be allowed then the only way is to manage them by the total numbers and to legally allow anyone that feels his/her life, property, livestock or pets are in danger to kill them and report the incident to the WDFW. 

Allowing this to happen is another clear example of the minority dictating to the majority.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2011, 12:34:36 PM »
I don't think the wolves are nonnative species. I think they were wiped out in the 1920's or 30's or so they say. I mean Elk on the eastside are not native either, they were railroaded in boxcars from Colorado in the 1920's. I voted strongly no because I think that it will likely lead to a bigger problem than what it is. I think the feds are in control and WA is following behind. I also think  that we will see areas shut down for hunting to allow the wolves to breed or more introduction or whatever the state/feds want to say. Most likely even with all the push back I think the state is looking to make a profit from the fed government for more money in management in wolves. :twocents:

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2011, 01:10:09 PM »
The wolves that are here now are not what was here is what we are getting at.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #69 on: October 05, 2011, 01:19:41 PM »
The wolves that are here now are the same species that have always been here. There seems to be this rumor going around that the wolves in Washington are non-native. I'm not sure where that comes from. But here's some info from the WDFW site:
 
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Aren’t the wolves that were re-introduced in other places non-native or different from earlier wolves?

No. The belief that the wolves reintroduced in the mid-1990s to Idaho and Yellowstone National Park from west-central Alberta and east-central British Columbia differed (being larger and more aggressive) from the wolves that originally occurred in the northern Rocky Mountain states is erroneous for several reasons.
 
First, wolves from the Canadian and northern U.S. Rockies, interior British Columbia, Northwest Territories, and nearly all of Alaska are closely related and belong to a single subspecies known as Canis lupus occidentalis. This conclusion is based on the examination of historical and recent wolf specimens collected throughout North America. Those originating from the region described above have proven to be genetically and morphologically similar. Examples of this are seen in the wolves harvested during the 2009 hunting seasons in Montana and Idaho. Adults from Montana weighed an average of 97 lbs with a maximum of 117 lbs, whereas adults from Idaho weighed an average of 101 lbs with a maximum of about 130 lbs. These weights are similar to the sizes of the wolves that occurred in these states in the 1800s and early 1900s.
 
Second, wolves are well known for their ability to disperse long distances from their birth sites. Radio-tracking data show that wolves from southeastern British Columbia and southwestern Alberta mix both with wolves from Idaho and Montana, and with wolves from farther north near the source locations of the animals used in the Idaho and Yellowstone reintroductions. When combined with recent research that reveals considerable genetic mixing among wolf populations in Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming, this information shows that wolves form a single population across the Rocky Mountains of the northern U.S. and southern Canada.

Third, recent genetic research involving hundreds of wolves sampled from Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming in the 1990s and 2000s found no evidence that the remnant native population of wolves that differed from the reintroduced wolves. Thus, the wolves present in these states before wolf recovery began were genetically similar to those used in the reintroduction.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2011, 01:32:16 PM »
I voted strongly no 15 breeding pair is to high as it is and then wa will take years to get them delisted due to lawsuits from the wolf lovers and all the while the ungulate herds will be decimated. Not to mention the livestock, pets and probably children that will be killed. Management needs to start before we have 15 breeding pairs!!
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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2011, 01:43:58 PM »
we are starting to get them in, keep the votes coming we are running out of time!

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2011, 01:48:17 PM »
Another myth seems to be that wolves were, or are being, introduced into the state. Also not true:
 
 
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Were wolves ever re-introduced to Washington?

No. The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) has never reintroduced or transplanted wolves from other states or provinces into Washington, nor has any other state or federal authority. There are no plans to ever do this. There is no reason to bring wolves into Washington because they are returning naturally from dispersing populations in nearby states and provinces.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2011, 02:42:10 PM »
my votes in...this is a very bad idea. should open a season now and let the management start before its too late, ie idaho, montana, wyoming. hope they get a clue as to the REAL opinion of the public ( hunters, ranchers, farmers, outdoorsman) and do not go through with this. just another money pit that this state should not be getting itself into.

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Re: Washington Wolf Plan Poll
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2011, 03:38:57 PM »
I may be wrong, but I don't believe the WDFW has ever been acccused of being intelligent.   :dunno:

 


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