Author Topic: Out of velvet already (Read 8845 times)

Huckleberry · « **on:** July 23, 2008, 07:31:20 AM »

I was up at work yesterday and ran across a herd of 50-60 animals. Lots of cows, a few spikes, raghorns and some lesser 6's. One of the 6's was already out of velvet ~ seemed kind of early to me. He wasn't real big maybe 240-250 inches and everything else in the herd with horns was still fuzzy. Isn't he a month or better early? Anyone else see this yet?

bucklucky · « **Reply #1 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:33:26 AM »

Begining of August is usually when the mature bulls will start rubbing.

boneaddict · « **Reply #2 on:** July 23, 2008, 05:59:58 PM »

Its a bit early, but then the doe Lil photographed by camp in the Methow this weekend was coming out of her red already

PolarBear · « **Reply #3 on:** July 23, 2008, 06:07:42 PM »

I heard that we are due for an early fall & winter. I know my apple trees have never been so loaded or early as they are this year.

jackelope · « **Reply #4 on:** July 23, 2008, 09:10:38 PM »

more than 1 of the bulls i saw in the blues this weekend had some velvet hanging.

dreamingbig · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2008, 04:28:00 AM »

Spent last weekend walking the elk woods up high. We didn't see any fresh rubs yet so no evidence that they are rubbing but would agree with Bone that first part of August is generally the time frame so wouldn't be surprised if a few started already.

Ridgerunner · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2008, 06:20:15 AM »

I'd say that was real early, I've run into mature bulls in late August that all still had their velvet. But July, to me that is crazy.

MIKEXRAY · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2008, 06:33:35 AM »

Hiked all around my area and usually loaded with rubs but I couldn't find a one. Had the wife with me and wanted to show her how much the trees get torn up, but none around.

Bigshooter · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2008, 07:48:47 PM »

Quote from: Ridgerunner on July 24, 2008, 06:20:15 AM

I'd say that was real early, I've run into mature bulls in late August that all still had their velvet. But July, to me that is crazy.

I agree.

BLUEBULLS · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2008, 06:32:54 AM »

They usually start shedding about a week into August in my area with most doing it around the 13th to the 15th.

bucklucky · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2008, 08:26:26 AM »

Bulls around my place are nice and tight yet!

rougheye · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2008, 09:09:57 AM »

Quote from: Bigshooter on July 25, 2008, 07:48:47 PM

Quote from: Ridgerunner on July 24, 2008, 06:20:15 AM
I'd say that was real early, I've run into mature bulls in late August that all still had their velvet. But July, to me that is crazy.

I agree.

Must be global warming

DOUBLELUNG · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2008, 09:15:34 AM »

Saw 4 Teanaway bulls Wednesday - all in velvet, but done growing antlers.

MooseStock · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2008, 09:48:58 AM »

Occasionally but rarely a Bull will not lose his antlers and he will keep them for an extra year...that is what you may have seen. I have been scouting alot already because I drew a special permit and I have seen lots of Elk and Bulls and they all look in the "normal" velvet mode to me..............Les

rosscrazyelk · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2008, 11:01:07 AM »

Was out the other day and saw lots of rubs, I saw some cows and a spike. His spikes were crazy long but in the velvet.

Opportunist · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2008, 11:11:15 PM »

Last sunday a friend of mine was out feeding his moo cows down by Cathlamet and a bull cut loose with a bugle on the hill above his farm. Sure gets the blood pumping.

Can't wait to call in a bull for my son! Come on September!

cascademountainhunter · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2008, 11:25:12 PM »

all the bulls ive seen have been still in the velvet.

pendoreilleadventures · « **Reply #17 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:43:28 AM »

yeah all the bulls i have seen are still in velvet going to check my cam here in next weekend will post some pics. Ihad a bull bugle at me aug. 12th last year

bucklucky · « **Reply #18 on:** August 07, 2008, 09:40:50 AM »

They are starting to rub right here, one bull has lastic wrapped up in his horns.

hunterbuilder · « **Reply #19 on:** August 07, 2008, 08:07:41 PM »

Last week ( end of july ) I saw quite a few bulls up in the Colockum area. One was a smallish 6pt in full velvet. Several spikes and raghorns in velvet. Did see 2 bigger bulls that were out of velvet. It was pretty cool to see.

cabin308 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 08, 2008, 01:34:18 PM »

If those indian brothers are up there like they have for the past few years, I doubt very many of the bulls you saw will be around come regular hunting season.

hunterbuilder · « **Reply #21 on:** August 08, 2008, 05:54:25 PM »

That would be a shame!!

These bulls were all seen off the road within about 30 minutes of driving. Is that where I've read on here before that these indian bro's go to get there elk?

cabin308 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 08, 2008, 06:31:46 PM »

Not trying to

Just offering some info for ya hunterbuilder.

It still happens in the Colockum. Here is the previous thread about the notorious brothers...
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,8937.0.html

rackattack · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2008, 06:13:14 PM »

I know of one 5 point in the Kelso area that has velvet hanging, the 3 others he's with still in full velvet. Won't be long.

bullchaser · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2008, 03:45:29 PM »

I had a 4+5 bugle right in front of my dad and I yesterday. It had to be his first of the year if i had not seen it i would have sworn it was a dude ( funny sounding bugle)

PacificNWhunter · « **Reply #25 on:** August 10, 2008, 03:59:11 PM »

Talked to a few guys at the gun range this last week and they said the majority of the bulls in the Margaret Unit are hard horned already....

boneaddict · « **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2008, 04:02:49 PM »

Those boys(Indian Bros) were so proud of themselves at the sportsman show. They planned on doing a sweep in the elk category I think, but they didn't expect to find a boneaddict in thier midst.

wackmaster · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2008, 06:48:11 PM »

A fellow log truck driver of mine who is working in the colockum said the are up there taking big bull already

rackattack · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2008, 06:56:51 PM »

pendoreilleadventures · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2008, 08:48:47 PM »

someone should contact there tribe and have this stopped this is bull *censored*

I work for an Indian tribe an this is not the way they all are by any means. One of my best friends is an indain and my hunting partner. If anyone gets what tribe they are from and there names I would be happy to contact there tribe and try and put a stop to this. this is a down right discusting thing there is no need to kill that many animals period. I could understand 2- maybe 3 to feed their famileys but 16 is just crazy. no wonder the elk were gone by 1900!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bearhunter · « **Reply #30 on:** August 11, 2008, 09:43:26 AM »

Seen 6 bulls up in the high country yesterday and they were all out of velvet.

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