sierra bullets on elk?

[bobcat]

"Texas Heart Shot" Really?  If the shot isn't there don't take it!  Don't be an idiot and shoot an elk in the ass and hope you kill it!

Anyone at my camp that took that shot would no longer be a member.
I passed up that shot 2 yrs in a row now on bulls that would have been my biggest yet.

That's your choice and your loss. If you do it right, you can drop an elk on the spot and not ruin an ounce of meat. I used to think the same way but sometimes you gotta take what you can get. I wouldn't recommend it to new hunters, but if you know how to shoot and you know where to aim, it's just as good a shot as anything else.

If you take this kinda shot your a flat out idiot!  Thats a good way to lose an animal and isnt worth the risk, sure it can kill and probably will but its a good way to lose an animal and not ever find it!  Are you that trigger happy you can't wait for a better shot or maybe have to let it walk away?  "I wouldn't recommend it to new hunters."  What because you think you've hunted for a lot of years your some expert marksman?  Has nothing to do with marksmanship, thats a bad shot period!  Yes it is my choice and its this mentality that I dont rifle hunt anymore because of retards like this running around in the woods looking to throw some lead!  People like you give the hunting community a bad name!  Way to go 

Like I said, if you don't agree with it, don't do it. I don't agree with shooting past 400 yards but a lot of people do. And if they practice enough and are 100% certain they can make the shot, then what's the problem? Giving the hunting community a bad name? I don't think so. Just the fact that we kill cute, innocent animals, is enough to give us all a bad name with a lot of people. These people really don't care where we shoot our animals.

Go ahead and think it's a bad shot to take. All I said is it will work. The only time I have ever done it is when I was taking a 2nd shot at an elk that I thought had been hit with the first shot, just before it went out of sight in the timber. Turns out the first shot was a clean miss. But the Texas heart shot did the job.

[Swatson]

Its a bad shot and not a high probability shot.  Its one thing if its a 2nd shot after thinking you've already hit with your first shot.  Sorry if you got your feelings hurt but I have no better way to get my point across.  Flat out, hands down, a stupid shot!  Again if the shots not there, live to hunt another day.  Don't force a shot because you got so excited! 

[bobcat]

Its a bad shot and not a high probability shot.  Its one thing if its a 2nd shot after thinking you've already hit with your first shot.  Sorry if you got your feelings hurt but I have no better way to get my point across.  Flat out, hands down, a stupid shot!  Again if the shots not there, live to hunt another day.  Don't force a shot because you got so excited!

All just your opinion, and you're welcome to it. Funny things is, I don't necessarily disagree. I don't make a habit out of shooting animals in the ass, but like I said, with the right bullet, it's an option. It's no more difficult to make a Texas heart shot than it is a head shot, and lots of people go for head shots. So I guess all I can say is if you've never tried it, then don't try to tell others that it won't work and that it's irresponsible.

[buckhorn2]

Since everyone is intitled to an opinion mine is to go along with texas heart shot if thats all you have to shoot at and I don;t think any elk is going to run away with that shot a lot better than hitting one amid ship when you were trying a moving shoulder shot. As for sierra game kings not working on elk I can show you over 40 branched antlered ones that it did work on shot placement or not. Do they work at long distance I would also in my opinion say yes really well out of my 338-378 using ii7 grains of powder and 250 sierra game kings my bullet of choice is nosler accubonds but have not lost any animals because sierras were poor bullets. I also have a 22 inch 9x7 whitetail that died this year from a texas heart shot don;t remember if I lost much meat but the  horns sure look nice in my opinion.

[grundy53]

"Texas Heart Shot" Really?  If the shot isn't there don't take it!  Don't be an idiot and shoot an elk in the ass and hope you kill it!

Anyone at my camp that took that shot would no longer be a member.
I passed up that shot 2 yrs in a row now on bulls that would have been my biggest yet.

That's your choice and your loss. If you do it right, you can drop an elk on the spot and not ruin an ounce of meat. I used to think the same way but sometimes you gotta take what you can get. I wouldn't recommend it to new hunters, but if you know how to shoot and you know where to aim, it's just as good a shot as anything else.

I totally agree.

[grundy53]

Its a bad shot and not a high probability shot.  Its one thing if its a 2nd shot after thinking you've already hit with your first shot.  Sorry if you got your feelings hurt but I have no better way to get my point across.  Flat out, hands down, a stupid shot!  Again if the shots not there, live to hunt another day.  Don't force a shot because you got so excited!

Not a high probabilty shot? have you ever studied the anatomy of an elk? a Texas heart shot presents you with the spine and several major arteries, not to mention the fact that you still have the heart, lungs, and liver. As far as a high probability of losing the animal. I would wager you have a higher chance of losing an animal that you miss your mark and hit in the guts. If you miss your mark on a Texas heart shot you are either going to bust it's femur (the bull isn't going anywhere) or maybe hit muscle. In which case the bull will probably live, unlike the gut shot one... Just my  .

[buckhorn2]

Thanks Grundy I probley should not have said anything but I hunt where you hunt and if I only shot at animals standing still and broadside there would;nt be much in the freezer or wall.  Sometimes people get pretty far into how someone else hunts and it really starts to not be what the question was in the first place are sierra game kings okay for elk my answer was yes and yes there are better bullets out there but they do work.

[Swatson]

Since everyone is intitled to an opinion mine is to go along with texas heart shot if thats all you have to shoot at and I don;t think any elk is going to run away with that shot a lot better than hitting one amid ship when you were trying a moving shoulder shot. As for sierra game kings not working on elk I can show you over 40 branched antlered ones that it did work on shot placement or not. Do they work at long distance I would also in my opinion say yes really well out of my 338-378 using ii7 grains of powder and 250 sierra game kings my bullet of choice is nosler accubonds but have not lost any animals because sierras were poor bullets. I also have a 22 inch 9x7 whitetail that died this year from a texas heart shot don;t remember if I lost much meat but the  horns sure look nice in my opinion.

Again, if the shots not there don't take it!  That means at animals on the run too!  I guess I have a different mentality than some of you!  I'd rather not risk shooting and losing an animal than hoping to get lucky on a poor shot opportunity.  With people that want to take a head shot at least with that shot if they connect it's going to put the animal down and if they miss its a clean miss.  A little different with a big ole elk butt where you miss and you hit it in the hind quarter and it runs off and dies somewhere and you don't recover it.  I'm so sick of finding dead critters in the woods that have been shot and lost.  Yea you can sit here and talk about how "it can be done."  I had a buddy that made a bad shot on a cow last year with his bow as he was trying to slip an arrow in behind the last rib as she was severely quartering away.  Missed his mark and hit her in the hind quarter.  he was so pissed at himself for trying to make that difficult shot.  Fortunately it hit an artery and she didn't go but about 30 yards.  Doesn't mean that's a good shot!  If you have an elk thats facing away from you, why not wait for it to turn braod side.  If the shot presents itself take it, if the elk blows up and you never get a shot, keep on hunting!

[bobcat]

With people that want to take a head shot at least with that shot if they connect it's going to put the animal down and if they miss its a clean miss.

Not true.

[Swatson]

Whatever dude, I guess we can play the what if game if you want but you have a much larger area to miss when shooting at a big ole elk a$$ than a head.  I suppose its possible to graze a head or hit it in the snout and have it run off.  Bottom line for me is don't take a shot when its not their.  Go ahead and shoot away, knock yourself out!

[bobcat]

Maybe what you're not realizing, is that a shot into the rear end of an animal is actually a heart/lung shot. The bullet just has further to go to get there.

Furthermore, I'd guess you haven't been around long if you have never seen, or at least heard of, a deer or elk running around without its lower jaw, having been blown off by someone attempting a head shot.

[grundy53]

Maybe what you're not realizing, is that a shot into the rear end of an animal is actually a heart/lung shot. The bullet just has further to go to get there.

Furthermore, I'd guess you haven't been around long if you have never seen, or at least heard of, a deer or elk running around without its lower jaw, having been blown off by someone attempting a head shot.

  and a magnum( or most larger caliber quality) bullet is different then an arrow...

[Swatson]

Arrow in the elk wasn't the point, point was just because it has the pontential of killing it or has killed it doesn't mean its a wise shot!  Yea and I have seen deer running around with busted up jaws and I don't think those are great shots either but a hell of a better shot than trying to get one in through the rear end and up into the vitals!  Like I said, if thats the kind of hunter you are, knock yourself out!  I personally think its a stupid shot and am not so desperate to try to fill my tag with a shot like that!

[Worldhunter]

Amax does the trick

[SI Eagle]

I still love the Sierra Gameking for Elk!