Draw results expected between June 11 and the 14th

[kirkl]

Ill have 16 deer points in this years drawing 

[madmack76]

when wa did the straight draw me and my dad got drawn every other year for permits

[buckhorn2]

Been reading the opinions on permit draws and it seems there are no clear answers on how to make the drawing odds better. Some people want in there lifetime to draw moose and some big horn sheep still other a quility bull tag but with the thousands of hunters putting in for these hunts the chance of drawing are poor to say the least. The only way to cut down on the odds in my opinion would to do it like Idaho. You can put in for one permit for either moose-sheep-goat-elk -deer but only one and if you draw it;s a once in a life time the next year you can try for the next thing you would like to hunt this would give a person a chance to have better draw odds on the species he wants to hunt most and could still hunt general deer and elk. It;s fun to put in for all the permits that we can but with long odds it could be better to cut down the permits and try for the draw that you want the most it would save us money.

[trophyhunt]

I think WDFW have figured out the revenue hit they are going to take here in the near future with guys like me. There are a lot of hunters in this state in the 45-55 year old range sitting on 10+ points each. What we are looking at is the odds of ever drawing another quality tag once we have drawn and start back over at zero. I seriously doubt I will draw this year for "quality" deer or elk, but assuming I did, next year I would be back at zero. Now, if I started applying again, odds are that I would have to apply for at least those 10 years again, I'm betting by then it would be even longer, closer to 15 before getting another chance. This would put me in my 60's, and although I know a lot of guys hunting at that age, they are certainly not putting in the miles and elevation changes I do right now, how much of a "quality" hunt is it really going to be, and thats assuming I do draw in that time and am still vertical.

 All this boils down to is guys drawing one more time and dropping out, never applying again. Now on the hunter side of things you are happy to be thinning the competition but from the revenue side of it you can see the $$$ dropping off pretty damn quick, a catch 22 for the dept. for sure.

Bingo, I will not play the wait game after I zero out. I will be one less person in the draws after all this waiting is over, it's not that I don't hunt my butt off even when I don't draw. But waiting to get the quality tag has put off hunting archery or muzzy on the west side looking for big bulls every year. They will loose some of my money, but doubt they will miss it.  I agree with you 100% on that's what is going to happen, I've talked to a lot of fellow hunters that have said the same thing. They are done!

[slim9300]

When he is 10 huh, might think about 15.

Lol. My sister had just turned 10 in the picture below when she killed this buck at 40 yards spot and stalk with her rifle (in WA). It was easily the greatest moment of my hunting career being right there over her shoulder and seeing her reaction. She loves to hunt and asks to shoot her bow whenever she can. This same year (2011) she killed her first elk right before her 10th birthday.

Why don't you save your advice for your own family and let others makes their own decisions.


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Unfortunately Wyoming made the decision not Huntnphool. You can't hunt there until you are 12 and you can't even put in until you are 11 and that is only if you will be 12 by the time the season opens.

Re-read the post I responded to. It didn't say 12 years old now did it? He wasn't referring to any law limiting age, he trying to influence a decision that he had no business being involved in. My response was directed at his general attitude, not his prior conversation. 


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[Lightning_Rider]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php

Im sure most of you have look at this (2011 points used by permit categories)...Theres a guy in there that applied with 36points and didnt get drawn 

[bobcat]

It all depends on which permits you apply for. If you want to draw, try the ones that have 40 permits available instead of only 3. That makes a big difference. Doesn't matter how many points you have, if the odds, based on number of permits versus applicants, is 1 in 400, your odds of drawing are very poor. I have drawn buck deer permits in 2000, 2004, and 2008. But I don't strictly apply for only the most popular and most difficult to draw permits. I always put down hunts with decent odds for a 3rd and 4th choice, or now that we only have two choices in Quality categories, I choose an "easy" permit for my 2nd choice.

If you never want to draw, keep applying for those hunts that have 1 permit, and 3,000 applicants every year.

[bucklucky]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php

Im sure most of you have look at this (2011 points used by permit categories)...Theres a guy in there that applied with 36points and didnt get drawn 

I know but thats how it goes when your putting in for some of the most popular hunts in the state  ... they are not a given for sure.

[Lightning_Rider]

Ya its definitely NOT a guarantee!!! EVER!

[washelkhntr]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php

Im confused, how does someone have 36 points for quality elk?  Poacher points?

 

[slim9300]

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2011.php

Im confused, how does someone have 36 points for quality elk?  Poacher points?

 

Yes.


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[willapawapiti]

I'm the guy with 37 points. Yes, thanks to a couple poachers, one guy took 3 deer one season, got him busted on #3   And, I did the math last year after not drawing.  Even with that many points, my points get watered down REALLY fast.  Just the way it is.....I hope I get my Blues tag this year, but I love to hunt no matter what, special hunts are just a bonus! 

[DIYARCHERYJUNKIE]

Just settle on the colockum...  There are a lot of tags you could draw with 2 points.  Some tags give 20% chance and some give 1% no matter the points.  I'll always put in for 20% hunts and if they stop offering something close I'll quit putting in.  The rifle guys must never draw to many of em.

[muzzlebuck]

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[ihunt]

Backdoor should be up fri june 8