Scopes for 2021 WA Muzzleloader season?

[10thmountainarcher]

Not that I'm opposed, but I just can't visualize one of these on my Bighorn.  And I'd need some sort of blast shield to keep the primer gases off of it.  Co-witness?

When I first saw this thread I thought "at least 5 pages of haters flaming technology"  ...   so far it's surprisingly civil.

But they did not mention 1X scopes with electronics so with the current regs that would rule out red dots and the like.

Illuminated recitals are legal in WA, why would this be any different?

Not for big game.

Where do the regs say that?

They don’t, they are legal in Washington. A topic from 2017 on this very forum covered it.

[Bob33]

In general illuminated reticles are legal. In the case of muzzleloaders they wouldn't be unless this restriction is changed:

(c) It is unlawful to have any electrical device or equipment attached to a muzzleloading firearm while hunting.

[10thmountainarcher]

In general illuminated reticles are legal. In the case of muzzleloaders they wouldn't be unless this restriction is changed:

(c) It is unlawful to have any electrical device or equipment attached to a muzzleloading firearm while hunting.

[carpsniperg2]

I know tc made a hawken 1x scope for awhile. Not to many out there that are 1x unless we are talking red dots then sky’s the limit. Like said though they would also have to change the restrictions on battery/electronics to let red dot be ok.

Maybe leupold or someone would make up a solid 1x scope for the market if it passes.

[Cougartail]

Leupold made a 1x shotgun scope years ago.

[millerwheeler]

 Does  anyone beside me think this will ruin muzzleloading as it will make MORE people flock to this season than the already rising numbers as there becoming more and more capable for longer distance

[nwhunter]

I used to argue against scopes on muzzies until I hit my mid 40's and eyes started going bad. Now open sights or a peep is blurry and with my readers on I can't see the target so I understand the reasoning behind it. I don't think it will suddenly get guys shooting 200 yards with them but it may keep some of the older guys in the game..

[Dan-o]

I used to argue against scopes on muzzies until I hit my mid 40's and eyes started going bad. Now open sights or a peep is blurry and with my readers on I can't see the target so I understand the reasoning behind it. I don't think it will suddenly get guys shooting 200 yards with them but it may keep some of the older guys in the game..

That.   

[huntnphool]

Death by a thousand cuts.
Inlines, waterproof primers, scopes- it all adds up.

 Fire sticks next?

[dilleytech]

I really hope they don’t approve this. A 1x scope would be a huge accuracy advantage over iron sights. There is a season where long range weapons with scopes are allowed if a person wants or needs that option. Let’s keep the muzzy woods a relatively less crowded spot place..

[dilleytech]

I used to argue against scopes on muzzies until I hit my mid 40's and eyes started going bad. Now open sights or a peep is blurry and with my readers on I can't see the target so I understand the reasoning behind it. I don't think it will suddenly get guys shooting 200 yards with them but it may keep some of the older guys in the game..

I would feel very confident at 200 with fine crosshairs on a 1x. Hell I would feel pretty good to 300.

[cem3434]

In general illuminated reticles are legal. In the case of muzzleloaders they wouldn't be unless this restriction is changed:

(c) It is unlawful to have any electrical device or equipment attached to a muzzleloading firearm while hunting.

  This is what I was referring too since we are specifically discussing muzzleloaders. Thanks for clarifying this Bob.

[Mr Mykiss]

Why not. Atta girl WA

[Wizekrakr]

Hey guys and gals.  I just joined the forum last week.  Mostly just lurking and reading.  You guys make some real good points.  Saw this topic and just had to chime in. I fall into the group of old guys who wish they could still see the iron sights on their rifles. Accuracy has suffered horribly in the last 10 years. I would welcome the opportunity to put some sights on my Big Horn that would give me a better sight picture. I don't think it is the sights on a muzzy that attracts hunters to the season or distracts them from it. It's all about pouring powder and stuffing a bullet down the barrel.  Peep sight, open sight, plain sight or 1x scope sight, is not what the muzzy is about. Pour the powder, keep it dry and then you get ONE shot.  Modern hunters are not going to flock to the muzzy season because of a sight change. I am sure there will be less wounded animals with that ONE shot too.  The funny part of all of this is nobody makes a 1x scope anymore.  They have all been discontinued. Weaver, TC and Nikon all made one at one time. If WDFW approves this come March, the price of used 1x scopes will go up nicely if you have one.

[millerwheeler]

I used to argue against scopes on muzzies until I hit my mid 40's and eyes started going bad. Now open sights or a peep is blurry and with my readers on I can't see the target so I understand the reasoning behind it. I don't think it will suddenly get guys shooting 200 yards with them but it may keep some of the older guys in the game..

That.

So what I read is you want to hunt modern , with a modern rifle because of your eyesight ?  And I can shoot 200 with my knight ultralight in a very decent group all day a scope would make it that much easier and yes it would make people flock to muzzleloding because we know we really do get the best seasons