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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #150 on: December 10, 2021, 06:24:29 AM »
For some reason I just don’t trust those numbers
many reasons not to. Just as I don’t trust wdfw numbers either lol I know people on both sides that don’t report, or report false gmu.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #151 on: December 10, 2021, 06:32:43 AM »
For some reason I just don’t trust those numbers
many reasons not to. Just as I don’t trust wdfw numbers either lol I know people on both sides that don’t report, or report false gmu.
Well there is very good reasons not to report or to report false gmu.
WDFW base almost all the numbers on reports.
They do very little deer or Elk counts on the ground or by trail cam,they do all these buck to Doe ratio, and crunch numbers from there desk,and you can see the results of these fine management skills ,year after year.
Some people see reporting harvest ,as hunters loading oppertunitty.
And I'm not even talking about native ,of coarse there not reporting.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #152 on: December 10, 2021, 06:54:56 AM »
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #153 on: December 10, 2021, 06:59:51 AM »
Have to agree, looking at the Nooksack hunting regs for example their bag limit for Elk/Deer are 4 total with a season that runs 9/1 through 2/28. That take doesn’t include ceremonial or damage control hunts.
For some reason I just don’t trust those numbers

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #154 on: December 10, 2021, 07:00:41 AM »
 :yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #155 on: December 10, 2021, 07:12:17 AM »
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #156 on: December 10, 2021, 07:16:56 AM »
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.
Always notice in Montana reservations you don’t even see a mangy coyote.  Management varies vastly be tribe.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #157 on: December 10, 2021, 07:26:20 AM »
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.

I figure at least then there might be predator management, probably be the same amount of tribal harvest as there is already. We will still have the same small dismal little seasons we get to go, with a handful of special permit tags.

But like you said can’t beat them join them. Then when we open up a wolf season the Seattle folks won’t/can’t scream about it because the almighty tribes authorized it.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #158 on: December 10, 2021, 08:10:33 AM »
The 2020 report says 74 elk taken in Nooksack with 3/4 ths of those taken by tribal members.   That seems believeable.   Not sure if that includes ceremonial and damage control?

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #159 on: December 10, 2021, 08:28:09 AM »
The 2020 report says 74 elk taken in Nooksack with 3/4 ths of those taken by tribal members.   That seems believeable.   Not sure if that includes ceremonial and damage control?
The NWIFC report includes ceremonial and subsistence harvest.  Damage hunts occur via state sanctioned hunts due to landowner complaints and verified damage after nonlethal measures have first been attempted.  There if very little if any tribal participation that I am aware of in damage hunts.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #160 on: December 10, 2021, 08:49:21 AM »
I thought this thread was about road access?   
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.
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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #161 on: December 10, 2021, 08:58:41 AM »
2nd time you have said it and the reply is the same. Threads evolve, change, go different routes. I don't see the issue.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #162 on: December 10, 2021, 09:23:13 AM »
I thought this thread was about road access?   
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.
The natives don't like it when the truth is out there don't want anyone to know how much they are actually killing! Check out some of their facebook sites  :bash:

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #163 on: December 10, 2021, 09:28:36 AM »
And for some reason they forget about the part with the Guys using rifles in an Archery area.
2nd time you have said it and the reply is the same. Threads evolve, change, go different routes. I don't see the issue.

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Re: Question on access for native americans
« Reply #164 on: December 10, 2021, 09:29:59 AM »
I thought this thread was about road access?   
:yeah:
Should just hand the wildlife management over to the tribes. 🍿
If you can't beat ,then join them I suppose.
Even here in the northeast it's about the same 4 or 5 deer a year,Sept 1 -jan 1 Hunting season,they have the reservation + what they call the north half ,which is gmu 101 ,they mainly shoot mule deer antlerless,spikes you name it. When they pull up on a small herd of mule deer,and let's say there are two of them ,they can shoot the entire 10 deer herd.
And some do.
Then the next year they wonder where all the deer went.
It's freaking funny as all get out.

Give us your thoughts on road access like the OP had questioned if you’d like to try to keep it in the original topic.

 


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