Dear WDFW....

[jason4429]

In your original post you didn't say anything about the willapa hills. You did state in another post that you and your family still hunt this season. I do not want to put in for another special permit,so that I can hunt . I think this is a horrible idea.pretty soon everything will be a drawing and you will only get to hunt when you get drawn.

[rackattack]

The ONLY reason I posted this is that I would like to see something done to help grow the blacktail population that seems to be diminishing in the area.

There is no denying that the majority of bucks in the north end of the Ryderwood and Willapa hills units are killed during these last 4 days.

Convince the timber companies to stop spraying every damn clearcut and you will see your populations return.

[gotcha]

 

[logger]

agreed, timber companies are in the tree growing bussiness, not deer. but i do agree with what you say.

[JimmyHoffa]

The ONLY reason I posted this is that I would like to see something done to help grow the blacktail population that seems to be diminishing in the area.

There is no denying that the majority of bucks in the north end of the Ryderwood and Willapa hills units are killed during these last 4 days.

Convince the timber companies to stop spraying every damn clearcut and you will see your populations return.

Need to convince the greenies to let the timber co's burn again so they won't have to spray.

[Griiz]

I agree that it seems like blacktail populations dropped off in the mid 90's and hasn't recovered. It started with the hair slip disease and then hound hunting was banned. More predators and less dear, I don't know if the numbers will ever bounce back to how it once was. The clearcuts also get sprayed to keep weeds from growing = less of the food deer want in them. If you look at the record books many of the newer entries are from Pierce and King Counties = many are neighborhood deer where the primary predator is a car. These deer live in friendlier environments and are able to attain an age to grow large antlers. It seems like blacktail to start developing decent antlers until they are 5+ years old. I don't think late buck is the reason for the declining numbers, it has been implemented for along time. It is also nice to have a chance to hunt deer when they actually show themselves due to weather and or rut. It is quite depressing to see the decline in rubs and deer when hunting.

[trophyhunt]

What are they spraying for? In hancock the clear cuts are a damn mess (new ones) you can't even walk through them, it sucks when they don't clean up the cut. I also noticed they are doing a decent job at killing the scotch broom. But in hancock I don't see any reason or evidence of spraying the clear cut.

[logger]

What are they spraying for? In hancock the clear cuts are a damn mess (new ones) you can't even walk through them, it sucks when they don't clean up the cut. I also noticed they are doing a decent job at killing the scotch broom. But in hancock I don't see any reason or evidence of spraying the clear cut.

   you will pretty soon hancock sprays the rat piss out of it about may-june, the purist won't let burning go on anymore so they spray that much more, we used to pile an burn whole units-not anymore.

[JPhelps]

O.K.  I agree with providing as much opportunity as possible.  I understand permits are not for everyone. So, If getting rid of the late season isn't an acceptable solution.

WHAT IS?

[trophyhunt]

What are they spraying for? In hancock the clear cuts are a damn mess (new ones) you can't even walk through them, it sucks when they don't clean up the cut. I also noticed they are doing a decent job at killing the scotch broom. But in hancock I don't see any reason or evidence of spraying the clear cut.

   you will pretty soon hancock sprays the rat piss out of it about may-june, the purist won't let burning go on anymore so they spray that much more, we used to pile an burn whole units-not anymore.

The spraying makes more sense to me than too many bucks being killed during late season when it comes to deer numbers being down.

[julzzz]

There are tons of blacktail bucks out there. I've seen 4 branched bucks during elk season and 3 different bucks on my trail cam.  Blacktails are hard to hunt. You dont see hunting shows on T.V. hunting blacktails for a reason!   

[billythekidrock]

No way in hell would I want them to eliminate the late buck rifle season even though I have been hunting archery and ml. The rut is winding down and most does are bred. BT herds in general are stable and the recent logging will only make hunting better. Sounds like another brilliant elitist idea from the archery crowd.

What are you talking about?  I have always had a rifle deer tag.

You are entitled to your own opinion without resorting to name calling.  Bye the way, how many days have you spent in the Willipa Hills?

No name calling, just sarcasm.

I am tired of hearing the "poor me”, "my area is wiped out", "I have a better idea" type threads. This just feeds into those that want to divide us further.

It is usually the archery hunters who want to change modern deer seasons and the modern elk guys wanting to change the archery rut hunts and the poor muzzy guys get shafted all the way around.

Eliminating any days of any weapon choice is not an acceptable answer. Once it is gone we will never get them back.

I have hunted blacktails for over 30 years and the last couple years I have been hard pressed to find a forky during general or late season. Am I worried about the bt population? No. Just because I don’t see the big bucks doesn’t mean they are not there.

Just today I saw 14 does and not a single live buck in a unit that I have never hunted before. Does that mean there is a lack of bucks? No. All the adult does had a yearling or fawn with them. They are being bred. I did see two nice three points that were killed so I know some good bucks are in the area.

Again, just because they aren’t seen doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

How much time the Willapa Hills? Absolutely zero in the last year.

[billythekidrock]

O.K.  I agree with providing as much opportunity as possible.  I understand permits are not for everyone. So, If getting rid of the late season isn't an acceptable solution.

WHAT IS?

Better predator management and reducing doe harvests.

[jason4429]

O.K.  I agree with providing as much opportunity as possible.  I understand permits are not for everyone. So, If getting rid of the late season isn't an acceptable solution.

WHAT IS?

kill some cougars

[JimmyHoffa]

What are they spraying for? In hancock the clear cuts are a damn mess (new ones) you can't even walk through them, it sucks when they don't clean up the cut. I also noticed they are doing a decent job at killing the scotch broom. But in hancock I don't see any reason or evidence of spraying the clear cut.

   you will pretty soon hancock sprays the rat piss out of it about may-june, the purist won't let burning go on anymore so they spray that much more, we used to pile an burn whole units-not anymore.

The greenies have been after spraying recently.  I know that the Port Townsend hippies were working on a county wide prohibition of spraying for roadsides, and then are planning on all county wide spraying.