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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2013, 11:56:26 PM »
They will be getting my deer plate back that I have had since year 1 of availability

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2013, 11:56:49 PM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2013, 11:58:10 PM »
They will be getting my deer plate back that I have had since year 1 of availability

I don't blame you. Let the wolf huggers buy the plates and support the wolves they love so much.

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2013, 11:58:54 PM »
The bill passed with a large Republican support

In favor: Bailey, Baumgartner, Becker, Benton, Billig, Braun, Brown, Carrell, Dammeier, Eide, Ericksen, Hargrove, Hatfield, Hewitt, Hobbs, Holmquist Newbry, Honeyford, King, Mullet, Padden, Parlette, Pearson, Rivers, Roach, Schoesler, Sheldon, Shin, and Smith

Opposed: Chase, Cleveland, Conway, Darneille, Fain, Fraser, Frockt, Harper, Hasegawa, Hill, Keiser, Kline, Kohl-Welles, Litzow, McAuliffe, Murray, Nelson, Ranker, Rolfes, Schlicher, and Tom

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2013, 12:00:19 AM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.

And for that reason you can't say WDFW wants to add the $10 for wolves. Because it was the Senate Ways and Means Committee which scrapped the new wolf plate and added the fee.

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #65 on: March 25, 2013, 12:04:24 AM »
What is ironic is that most of the legislators who love wolves so much did not want a wolf plate and do not want to pay for wolf damage.  :bdid:
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #66 on: March 25, 2013, 12:08:13 AM »
Like I said above

They want me to pay more for a plate that is suppose to help the intended wildlife on said plate and now charge more so they can help build a population of wolves destine to eat the animals I'm trying to help?



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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2013, 12:12:20 AM »
Like I said above

They want me to pay more for a plate that is suppose to help the intended wildlife on said plate and now charge more so they can help build a population of wolves destine to eat the animals I'm trying to help?

That's the nice thing about this "tax" - it's voluntary. If you don't want to pay for wolf damage, don't pay for the plates. My wife has the Orca plate on her car. I'm going to try to convince her to get rid of them. Let the wolf huggers pay for the wolves.

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2013, 01:24:42 AM »
Many of the wesern states, including Wyoming, have ridiculously low resident hunting license fees. They could raise those fees by a small percentage to help out the budget, but it seems all they ever want to do is stick it to the non-residents.

I just looked up fees for comparison. WY RES Deer - $38 (WA $44.90), WY RES Elk - $52 (WA - $50.40), WY RES Black Bear $45 (WA - $24). WY residents also do not receive a package price discount for buying several species at once. I do know that MT does have very low rates for residents while having ridiculous prices for Non-Res.
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2013, 01:29:30 AM »
I agree, reducing the cougar population would be a good thing. But without hound hunting as an option, does it really matter how many cougar tags a person can buy?

I've purchased a cougar tag every year since they became OTC tags. But, I have never even seen a cougar, except in pictures from my trail camera.
This is not directed at you Bob but just quoting you as a example. What you guys again fail to remember is that WDFW now have a brand new cougar plan, one that is based on their belief (WSU professor study) that the cougar population in this state is being OVER HARVESTED so you can forget about them even thinking about increasing tags/seasons.
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2013, 01:36:21 AM »
They will be getting my deer plate back that I have had since year 1 of availability
If this goes through they will lose my $40 as well.
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2013, 06:06:54 AM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.

And for that reason you can't say WDFW wants to add the $10 for wolves. Because it was the Senate Ways and Means Committee which scrapped the new wolf plate and added the fee.

 Okay...So where did this come from?.......


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"The agency wants legislators to pass a bill, ESSB 5193, which will help fund management activities. Part of it raises the cost of a wildlife plate from $40 to $50. The extra $10 will go straight to wolf management, whether you buy an endangered species plate, wildlife viewing plate or deer and elk plate.""
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2013, 09:42:02 AM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.

And for that reason you can't say WDFW wants to add the $10 for wolves. Because it was the Senate Ways and Means Committee which scrapped the new wolf plate and added the fee.

 Okay...So where did this come from?.......


"All I know is what Dave Ware said the other day in Olympia

"The agency wants legislators to pass a bill, ESSB 5193, which will help fund management activities. Part of it raises the cost of a wildlife plate from $40 to $50. The extra $10 will go straight to wolf management, whether you buy an endangered species plate, wildlife viewing plate or deer and elk plate.""

Read my prior posts, which Bearpaw agrees with. WDFW wanted a new wolf plate in the original, the senate said no, just add $10 to the current plate.

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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2013, 09:45:43 AM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.

And for that reason you can't say WDFW wants to add the $10 for wolves. Because it was the Senate Ways and Means Committee which scrapped the new wolf plate and added the fee.

 Okay...So where did this come from?.......


"All I know is what Dave Ware said the other day in Olympia

"The agency wants legislators to pass a bill, ESSB 5193, which will help fund management activities. Part of it raises the cost of a wildlife plate from $40 to $50. The extra $10 will go straight to wolf management, whether you buy an endangered species plate, wildlife viewing plate or deer and elk plate.""

Read my prior posts, which Bearpaw agrees with. WDFW wanted a new wolf plate in the original, the senate said no, just add $10 to the current plate.
The $10 fee is still the WDFW's idea, regardless where the $10 is imposed. ;)
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Re: State game departments may start to figure it out
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2013, 09:47:42 AM »
What will it change between landowner and WDFW besides me paying $10 more?

You're not getting my point. There are 6 components of this bill, 5 have to do with damage done to landowner property, the other has to do with the license plate.

WDFW did not want the current bill as it passed the Senate. WDFW wanted a completely new wolf plate, not simply increase the fee for the current plates. But they are not going to try and kill it simply because one of the 6 components were modified.

You are correct, it was written to create a new wolf plate.

And for that reason you can't say WDFW wants to add the $10 for wolves. Because it was the Senate Ways and Means Committee which scrapped the new wolf plate and added the fee.

 Okay...So where did this come from?.......


"All I know is what Dave Ware said the other day in Olympia

"The agency wants legislators to pass a bill, ESSB 5193, which will help fund management activities. Part of it raises the cost of a wildlife plate from $40 to $50. The extra $10 will go straight to wolf management, whether you buy an endangered species plate, wildlife viewing plate or deer and elk plate.""

Read my prior posts, which Bearpaw agrees with. WDFW wanted a new wolf plate in the original, the senate said no, just add $10 to the current plate.
The $10 fee is still the WDFW's idea, regardless where the $10 is imposed. ;)

No it is not. WDFW wanted the new wolf plate so people who want to support wolves can have their money go to wolves. Now people who wanted their money going to wildlife management, endangered species management, etc are going to have to pay $10 extra just because Senators didnt want to make a new plate!

 


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